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IP: some more Verizon
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:44:16 -0400
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:38:50 -0500 To: David Farber <dave () farber net> From: Manny Farber <manny () manny com> Subject: some more Verizon I don't even see why ISPs need only relay e-mail from their own IP addresses-- they can require POP (?) authentication before sending mail. Here's some more information about their implementation of Verizon's implementation of their ridiculous SMTP policy. First off, they instituted it two days earlier than they announced that they would. If anything, they probably should have given their customers two days grace. Secondly, although they won't relay e-mail tagged as from the real e-mail address I use (manny () manny com), for me they'll still relay e-mail tagged as from, among other things: techsupport () bellatlantic net postmaster () bellatlantic net (any BellAtlantic DSL customer--I tried myself and a friend) Presumably ditto for @verizon.net on the above. It is still possible to set the "Reply-To" field. So theoretically it would be possible to: (1) Send spam using other BellAtlantic customer's userids. If you're interested, you could still receive replies to the spam, at whatever e-mail address you wish. (2) Send obnoxious e-mail purportedly from techsupport () bellatlantic net to BellAtlantic customers, and have the replies go back to BellAtlantic techsupport. Oh wait, why bother: BellAtlantic apparently does that anyway. However, the following are not possible: (1) You get spam from one of those many lists popping up that purport to be "opt-in". To unsubscribe, you probably have to send an e-mail from the address to which it was sent. This is no longer possible! (2) Ditto for legitimate lists. And the dumb thing is that no sooner does Verizon improve the reliability of their DSL service to acceptable standards than they come up with this unacceptable SMTP policy. I think it would be a neat stunt for a Verizon competitor to set up a mail server for use by disfranchised Verizon customers. They could allow mail relaying only from Verizon DSL IP addresses and add a Yahoo!-style, one-line advertisement at the bottom. Manny
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