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IP: RE: A personal view from your IP Editor -- A missed Broadband Opp ortunity
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 05:06:36 -0400
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:16:39 -0400 To: farber () cis upenn edu From: Steve Crocker <steve () stevecrocker com> Dave, et al, I just finished shutting down my tiny DSL-based ISP. I had feeds from Verizon and Covad. Both companies had their strengths and weaknesses, all of which have been well documented. One of the reasons I shut down was lack of control of the service. I lived in constant fear that a wholesale disruption would leave me with many unhappy customers and no means of doing anything about it. At home, I have two distinct DSL services, one based on Verizon and one based on Covad. Yes, that's obviously more expensive than a single DSL line, but it's a whole lot less expensive than even one T1 line, and the service is roughly in the same league. (Purists will argue; so be it.) I *vastly* prefer having two DSL lines to having one DSL line and some other form of back up such as ISDN or dial up. ISDN continues to be a nightmare, and dialup is too slow. And configuration issues favor having two DSL lines as well. A standard PC running Windows can be configured to know about two routers. If one line goes down, little or nothing is needed to get all the machines to switch to the other line. A dual-DSL configuration is not likely to catch on for home use, but for business use I think it's an excellent balance between cost and reliability. There are, of course, some shared points of failure. The copper loops will likely run through the same trenches and on the same poles, and they'll terminate in the same central office. Even so, there can be happy surprises. An idiot operating some construction equipment a block from my house took out a bunch of overhead telephone lines a year or so ago. The entire neighborhood was affected. To my surprise, only two of my POTS lines and my Covad line went down. My third POTS line, which also happened to have my Verizon DSL service on, was apparently routed differently and I was still operational. Another possible form of back up is Ricochet... Cheers! Steve At 05:52 PM 4/3/2001 -0400, David Farber wrote:From: Anthony Dye <ADye () evokesoft com> To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: RE: A personal view from your IP Editor -- A missed Broadband Opp ortunity Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:43:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) You can send this out if you like... My company (Evoke Software) was completely abandoned by Northpoint AND our provider, Verio. Verio made only the barest of efforts to contact us about the impending demise of Northpoint; the email address they had was bad (typo on their part) and they made no effort to phone anyone from the company, even though they have numerous contact numbers for us. If we hadn't paid a bill, I'm sure they would have been in rapid contact with us... but customer service is not their strong point. Verio no longer provides new DSL accounts, even for their Northpoint users. Our San Francisco office uses Verio and Covad, but Verio wouldn't give us a Covad line. They offered us free dialup for 60 days... of course, we only have 4 analog lines for dialout, and we'd have to open up our firewall in SF to let the connections in. They also offered to upgrade us to T-1 access (30 days to install), or else we could call Earthlink and maybe get DSL from them... So, Monday morning, our entire Austin office was suddenly without access to the net. Time Warner Cable says it'll take 90 days to get us cable modem access, SWBell can get us a new DSL line by Thursday of next week. Both options stink... we're sharing modems, 10 people to a connection, until SWBell can get out here. Lesson? No business should go with DSL if they can possibly avoid it. The lack of a SLA means that outages can last for hours, or days, or forever, and companies have no recourse, legal or otherwise. SWBell won't even prorate your bill for the downtime. They make no guarantees of uninterrupted service, either. Get a fractional T-1 if you can, and if not, make sure all your public servers are co-located somewhere else. And make sure you've got a different connection set up for emergencies. When you consider what it's costing us to be without net access, the cost of maintaining a 128K ISDN line is pretty insignificant. -Tony Dye Technical Services Evoke SoftwareFor archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/---------------------------------- Steve Crocker Associates, LLC Bus: +1 301 654 4707 5110 Edgemoor Lane Fax: +1 202 478 0458 Bethesda, MD 20814 steve () stevecrocker com
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