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IP: my.mp3.com encodes CDs without labels' permission


From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:09:02 -0500



Reply-To: <jelyon () jelyon com>
From: "John Lyon" <jelyon () jelyon com>
To: <farber () cis upenn edu>

Mr. Farber;

This may be of some interest to some IPers. I've added some of my own
comments, based on my use of the service.

Excerpt from "Cyberscope" in Newsweek, available at the following URL:
   http://newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/dept/cs/a35394-2000jan16.htm
----------------[begin]----------------
MP3.com's New Tune

Newsweek, January 24, 2000

Last July music industry nemesis Michael Robertson guided MP3.com to a
high-flying IPO, leaving record execs wondering what he'd do for an encore.
The unwelcome answer came last week: without seeking permission from the
major labels, MP3.com has encoded 40,000 CDs from a variety of artists to
help Net users create their own personalized online jukeboxes.
...
----------------[ end ]----------------

Should be an interesting tussle between the RIAA and MP3.COM.

There are plenty of privacy issues to consider, as well.

The service works like this:

- User registers at my.mp3.com

- User downloads and installes "Beam-It" - a program that reads a CD and
compares it to the online database. If there is a match, it allows the user
to access the tracks as MP3s from my.mp3.com (after logging in).

- The tracks are streamed, not downloaded. (Tracks can be downloaded, if
someone wishes to take the time to do so. I'm not sure what the payoff would
be, in the long run. I'd just as soon make my own MP3s to my own
specifications. It's also not practical over low bandwidth pipes)

- URLs change about once an hour - keeps users from creating links to the
MP3 files.

- If user gives out account information, which is then used to log in twice,
a file plays that indicates that the user is already logged in.

I did run a sniffer while "beaming" a CD, and didn't notice anything more
than track numbers and what appeared to be offset numbers sent back to
my.mp3.com - I would guess it's similar to what is passed to the CD Database
(www.cddb.com) with a CDDB enabled player.

I like the service, as I can stream any of the tracks from the CDs I've
"beamed" _and_ are in the database, while at work.

I am aware that my listening habits can be tracked, and I can be marketed
to, very, _very_ specifically. That may or may not be a bad thing, but I can
filter the messages right to the trash, if I wish.

As I said, should be an interesting tussle. My money is on the RIAA - I can
imagine an agreement where artists have to give specific permission for
their works to be made available, and the service ends up a ghost of itself,
much like www.lyrics.ch, which was killed by a lawsuit that was eventually
"settled." That much loved site is now worthless.

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John Lyon, Proprietor and Impresario
      http://jelyon.com/rules
 John's rules for IT professionals


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