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From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:20:08 -0500



Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:09:17 -0700 (MST)
From: Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder () Opus1 COM>
Subject: Re: Network Associates
To: farber () cis upenn edu

Network Associates is famous in the media community for their fairly slimy
ways.  They are continuing a program of sleazy ad campaigns with
half-undone blouses and drug-based humor ("not since the early 80's has so
much been snorted so quickly"),  along with the the 60-foot-long banners
with grammatical errors at trade shows ("while your watching me..."). At
the same time, the control-freak review mentality continues.

I wrote a review of firewall products for Network World magazine and looked
at Gauntlet (the firewall product NAI bought from TIS) without NAI's
permission.  Unfortunately, it did not get a great review, largely because
they haven't touched the product significantly since they bought it several
years ago and showed up fairly miserable performance.  (Other reviews have
seen similar results)

This sent them into a total tizzy.  They tried a bunch of approaches
to get the review pulled from Network World magazine, and one was
pulling out the license clause you noted.

Fortunately for informed consumers of the world,
this is a special add-on to their license which is not incorporated
in the product.  If you get the product without reading that license,
there is no affirmative "click to agree" on the No Benchmarks/No
Publicity step.  Thus they had no moral and no legal standing to
claim that their products can not be evaluated without permission.

When you actually install their products, there is a license which you have
to agree to, but it does not include the hush-hush clauses.  So it is
possible to review their products, even if they are afraid of publicity,
but you have to be careful about how you get them.  It is clear that they
don't want to participate in head-to-head reviews unless they are in clear
control.

jms


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