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IP: While cda-II diverts attention, end run around clipper
From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:37:50 -0500
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:30:38 -0800 From: mech () eff org (Stanton McCandlish) The referred-to articles in the constituent letter blow are interesting, and the govt. officials spew some really amazing double-speak. Some of the more relevant passages from both articles are excerpted below. <snippets> "I'd also ask American business not to make a campaign out of just trying to bust through export controls as though somehow there was a God-given, inherent right to send the strongest encryption to anybody in the world, no matter who they are," [US Deputy Secretary of Defense John] Hamre said. "I would ask you to step past this debate that we're having on cyber liberties vs. law enforcement," Hamre said. "We're going to have to get to a more sophisticated understanding of this problem, and we don't have a lot of time. "I do not believe that it's more important to protect ourselves against terrorists if it means it comes at the expense of civil liberties in the United States," [US Deputy Secretary of Defense John] Hamre said. Hamre admitted that strong encryption was dangerous but also essential to protecting the country's communications and enabling commerce and secure transmissions on the Internet. "We have to protect ourselves in this environment and it's got to be with encryption and some form of security management, key recovery in our case," Hamre said. "But we're going to make it voluntary.... It's something we all have to do, frankly, for the country." Hamre went on to say that 56-bit encryption was good enough for most applications. "I mean, there isn't anybody in the world that could routinely bust that level of encryption in the same time sequence it takes to issue it," he said. "[W]e're not prohibiting anybody from using enormously strong encryption today." Despite his reservations about strong crypto, which could protect critical systems, Hamre said that the nation is currently "wide open to attack electronically." <end snippet> We're mentioned prominently with a link to the DES Cracker stuff. Some other very intersting material: <snippets> Despite his reservations about strong crypto, which could protect critical systems, Hamre said that the nation is currently "wide open to attack electronically." He revealed further details of Operation "Eligible Receiver," a Defense Department information warfare exercise conducted last year. The Pentagon hired a team of 30 to 35 crackers to see how far they could penetrate government and critical infrastructure systems. The hackers worked for three months, using only off-the-shelf hardware and software and programs downloaded from what Hamre characterized as "hacker Web sites." "We didn't really let them take down the power system in the country, but we made them prove that they knew how to do it," he said. Hamre admitted that the Defense Department is "surprisingly vulnerable" as well, since most government communication is now conducted over commercial channels. <end snippets> This is worth reading too: <snippets> The industry is facing a year-end deadline to add a government-approved back door into network gear. Vendors that don't provide this access risk losing export privileges. Cruising up and down Silicon Valley, NSA spooks from the agency's Fort Meade headquarters have been making pit stops at companies ranging from industry leaders Netscape Communications Corp. and Sun Microsystems, Inc. to start-ups such as VPNet Technologies, Inc. in order to get a peek at products still on the drawing board. The NSA wants software vendors to make sure that any product with strong encryption have some way for the government to tap into the data. And because practically every commercial network application, router or switch these days includes encryption or an option for it, almost every vendor now has to answer to the NSA if it wants to export. It's gotten to the point where no vendor hip to the NSA's power will even start building products without checking in with Fort Meade first. This includes even that supposed ruler of the software universe, Microsoft Corp. "It's inevitable that you design products with specific [encryption] algorithms and key lengths in mind," said Ira Rubenstein, Microsoft attorney and a top lieutenant to Bill Gates. By his own account, Rubenstein acts as a "filter" between the NSA and Microsoft's design teams in Redmond, Wash. "Any time that you're developing a new product, you will be working closely with the NSA," he noted. According to Bill Reinsche, Department of Commerce undersecretary for the Bureau of Export Controls, about 50 vendors have submitted plans for government-approved key-recovery, also called data-recovery. These companies, which include IBM, were rewarded with Key Management Infrastructure (KMI) export licenses to export products with 56-bit or stronger encryption until year-end. But some companies are discovering that dealing with the Commerce Department for a KMI license means more involvement with the NSA. The Bureau of Export Control is actually just a front for the NSA, said Alison Giacomelli, director of export compliance at VPNet Technologies, Inc., a San Jose, Calif.-based vendor of IP-based encryption gateways. "The NSA has sign-off authority on these KMI licenses," Giacomelli said. In return for the KMI license, VPNet opened itself up for an NSA audit. "They've already come out once, and they'll be coming out again," Giacomelli said. VPNet remains committed to meeting the deadline for adding key-recovery to its product but has one major problem: uncertainty about what the NSA really wants. The confusion means "there's a lot of risk . . . in terms of engineering and resources," Giacomelli said. Clearly wary of granting the government supervision over its products, Microsoft has stubbornly refused to submit a data-recovery plan, even though the Redmond giant already includes a data-recovery feature in its Exchange Server. "The Exchange Server can only be used when this feature is present," Rubenstein said. "Because we haven't filed a product plan, it's harder for us to export this than for companies that have filed plans." But in an odd-couple sort of joint-partner arrangement, Microsoft and the NSA did work together to build what's called Server Gated Cryptography. Primarily intended to help banks use Web servers to do business internationally, the technology lets a server with a special digital certificate provide 128-bit encryption support to a Web browser outside the U.S. Sybase, Inc., which also submitted a plan to add key-recovery to its products, found it hard to satisfy the government's demands. "They approved our technological approach but disapproved each of our applications with it," said Sybase President and CEO Mitchell Kertzman. "It's been frustrating." Documents recently obtained under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) by the Washington, D.C.-based Electronic Privacy Information Center contain the data-recovery plan Netscape filed at the Commerce Department last year. Netscape's plan explains that the "escrow of private encryption keys" could be achieved by developing client and server products that can only issue an X.509 digital certificate after the private key has been escrowed. The key can only be held by an entity chosen by the intranet administrator who handles security policy. The Netscape plan called for introducing a certificate server with recovery capabilities in the first quarter of this year, with the introduction of S/MIME clients with basic recovery features in the second quarter. Netscape hasn't actually carried out this plan, and the company declined to discuss it. Netscape attorney Peter Harter would only say officially, "We had no choice but to submit the plan, no matter how much we opposed key-escrow, in order to be part of the ongoing dialog." Other FOIA documents show that Netscape was regularly briefing the NSA on its product plans since 1996 and that then NSA Deputy Director William Crowell took a special interest in trying to dissuade Netscape from using strong encryption. Crowell, now vice president for product marketing and strategy at Cylink Corp., said he had frequent discussions with Netscape, especially concerning changes to Netscape Navigator. "Their product didn't have a separate signature key, so if the government used the product for key-escrow later, you'd have to store the signature key with a third party, which we thought was a bad idea," Crowell said. He added that Netscape Navigator 3.0 adopted the changes the NSA wanted. According to Crowell, the NSA has a great deal of expertise in securing communications, and it wants to ensure that products bought by the Defense Department meet NSA standards. "In addition, as part of the NSA's intelligence mission, [the agency needs] to have a thorough understanding of where commercial products are headed." Taher Elgamal, author of the Netscape data-recovery plan, who recently left Netscape to start his own venture, said Netscape had no choice but to maintain constant contact with the NSA. "They're costing the industry a lot of money," Elgamal said. Others agree. "Everyone in Silicon Valley, including us, has to have specific staff - highly paid experts - to deal with them," said Chris Tolles, security group product manager at Sun. "Their job is to wrangle this from a policy standpoint." Sun has had run-ins with the NSA in the past. Two years ago, the NSA objected to Sun including encryption in the exportable version of Java 1.1. The end result was that Sun stripped encryption out of Java 1.1 and the software was delayed by about six months. <end snippets> << start of forwarded material >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:35:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Bruce Gingery <bruce () gtcs com> Reply-To: bgingery () gtcs com To: Stanton McCandlish <mech () eff org> Subject: While cda-II diverts attention, end run around clipper resistance Mech, I'm not sure if you're even at EFF any more. Yet, we communicated a bit about CDA-I, and your moves were extremely beneficial to civil and cyber liberties. While I don't subscribe to hysteria WRT plots and conspiracies, I _do_ see at least a coincidence here, that while cyber-liberties groups are focused on CDA-II, other ``game is afoot''. Now, it seems, there is an end run around public resistance to cryptographic back doors. In a wired article today, US Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre confirmed in Aspen, last week, the reports of strong DOD/NSA interference in software designs, insuring that back doors are included - reported days earlier in IDG/CNN... (URLs: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/14098.html http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9807/27/security.idg/ ) Now, put that together with the anti ``reverse-engineering'' clauses in the Copyright bills in both the House, and the WIPO treaty just passed (if I understand correctly) the Senate, and we've got a real problem. They seem to be worded to SPECIFICALLY include detecting and closing these back doors. Even if foreign patches were available to close such back doors, the wording would appear to be easily perverted to make it illegal to have a copy of such patches, let alone apply them. Presuming all of these reports are correct, not only will everything but open source software have back doors, but it will be illegal to look for them and close them. (Oh, after a two year wait, one MIGHT get permission from Commerce to investigate security of new software in one compromise house amendment). It would seem that there's more cats to lock into their bags, before UNDOING the damage is far harder than preventing it. Bruce Gingery <bgingery () gtcs com> << end of forwarded material >> -- Stanton McCandlish mech () eff org http://www.eff.org/~mech Program Director, Electronic Frontier Foundation voice: +1 415 436 9333 x105 fax: +1 415 436 9333 PGPfone: 204.253.162.21
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