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IP: Chinese intranets and other tales of the censors
From: David Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 20:51:41 -0400
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 19:59:20 -0400 To: farber () cis upenn edu (David Farber) From: "Richard J. Solomon" <rjs () rpcp mit edu> At 8:25 PM -0400 4/5/97, David Farber wrote:
"At the same time, we can collect all the information that is needed by China from the world community and put them into our giant database in Beijing, in Chinese language so that all the users in China can
This is all very funny, and the joke's on Mao. Let me relate a true story, as far as I can recall having read it in Science Magazine a long time ago. Some years ago the editor of Science (Phil Abelson, I think, at the time) was finally invited to Moscow to give a talk. This was sometime in the early 1970s. After his talk, he was invited to the library of some important scientific society. The librarian (who apparently was not clued into what was what) was thrilled to meet this important editor of a most important American publication. He told him: we have your periodical prominently displayed, but the only problem is it takes 6 or more months to get here -- could you find a way to speed that up? All the while the librarian was waving a mimeographed (that's right, mimeo'd) pile of pulp with strings around it, and indicating that this was the famous "Science." Wait a minute!, asks Abelson, are you translating Science into Russian -- is that why it takes so long to get here? What translation?, the librarian said -- this is your original English-language publication. Mimeo'd? Abelson pulled out the current copy of the magazine, printed on coated stock, with a color cover. The Soviet librarian had never seen this. Instead their shelves had decades of dog-eared mimeographed, disintegrating pulp called "Science." What was going on? Censorship of course -- but what do you censor in Science? The articles on genetics? No -- THE ADS! The Russians had re-typed the entire issue each week for decades -- without the ads, especially the classified ads for jobs and the product adverts. They simply did not want their scientists to know what people earned outside of the USSR, nor what equipment cost, or what was available. For this insane goal, important research results were delayed, errors (of course) would crop in due to re-typing, charts and graphs and photos were missing, and the typescript on pulp was difficult to read. Stalin probably thought this prevented cultural pollution. Beria probably thought Western science was useless anyway. The Science editor was even more miffed than the Soviet librarian -- the AAAS was not getting any revenue from Soviet scientists or libraries! The Soviets were buying only ONE copy per week for the entire nation, and violating copyright by re-typing it. What did you say the Chinese were going to do about the Internet? Not to worry about competition from this sector. They are doomed to be always how many months behind by re-keying everything in Chinese? and leaving out the ads, of course. Richard for IP, if you can handle the length
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