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RE: Discovering and Stopping Phishing/Scam Attacks
From: "Alex" <incidents () alex gotdns org>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:34 -0500 (CDT)
Dude, Under your scheme, Phishers would only need to spoof an "unblock" email to the user. How many users are actually going to invent a NEW password and a NEW 3rd item? They are just going to re-enter their current ones and give these to the Phisher. Most people don't even bother making unique passwords for each service. It's still not clear what the utility of the 3rd field is -- seems equivalent to a longer password. - I think a better way to stop phishing is simple education. People are used to verifying physical ID (i.e. Driver's license) for many types of transactions (bank, apartment lease, etc). They need to get used to verifying SSL certificates for login webpages. -Alex
ok mr. moderator... i think the real problem to phishing exists is the weak process of login systems today... anyone just needs a login and password, to be authenticated, i think web aplications needs to change login systems... to be more tight... and the phishers maybe loose there hope to grep information very easy with just a username and password... my idea and solution to a new login system is this... creating a 3rd field, this 3rd field the user will choose... it will work like saying yes this is the real bank system welcome back mr. user insert your password... the process... 1rst page user -> puts the username... second page.. 3rd field -> what is your cat name? now the user knows that this was the question that he have put int the 3rdfield from the real bank site (he can put what he want)... password ?? -> user puts the password.. he is athenticated. now the phishers they have more work, needs two process to gain access to the bank user account... first they need to colect the username to get the 3rd field... and they need to put the 3rdfield in the false website... to get the password... but this is the deal... when a user or anyone, puts the username in this login system needs to proceed with a password, if not, if the user close the browser, if he tries 3times and can't login, the system will block the username and send a email to the real user, a code to unblock the username and force the user to change the username and 3rd field... and now the phishers don't know again what will be the new username and 3rdfield... this system, is nothing from other planet and i think that help a lot the users, and will stop a litle or a big % this phisher mans... regards Nuno Costa
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