Re: Sorry

[Jim Duncan <jduncan () juniper net>]

Absolutely. Reading this, my thoughts are that any such robotic system has additional object and motion sensors: if 
there's _anything_ in the operating area that's _not_ supposed to be there, you shut down. Immediately.  Ditto if you 
grasp something of the wrong texture or you lift something of unexpected mass. Full stop. Alarms. Logs. Shut down.

Jim

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-------- Original message --------
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: 2015/07/02 20:51 (GMT-05:00)
To: RL Vaughn <rl_vaughn () baylor edu>
Cc: funsec () lists linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] Sorry

In all seriousness it is terrifying how little environmental awareness is needed (and thus, is present) with modern 
robotics.  Vision is there if it absolutely must be.

On Thursday, July 2, 2015, RL Vaughn <rl_vaughn () baylor edu<mailto:rl_vaughn () baylor edu>> wrote:
So you guys weren't working in Computer aided manufacturing in the late 70's??

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On 7/2/15 5:26 PM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) wrote:
> Mine too actually.....
>
>
> Sent from the console of my TARDIS in Galaxy s5, any typos you perceive are
> entirely your problem.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" <rmslade () shaw ca>
> Date:07/02/2015 3:56 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: funsec () linuxbox org
> Subject: [funsec] Sorry
>
> I know it's a tragedy for his family and friends.  And co-workers, come to that.
>  I've been dealing with enough of it myself, recently.
>
> I'm sure it'll be poured over in the RISKS Digest to find out what went wrong,
> and what lockout procedures should be followed when working in such a situation.
>
> But I have to admit, my first reaction to the headline was:
>
> "Skynet.  It begins."
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33359005/man-crushed-to-death-by-robot-
> at-car-factory
>
>
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