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Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions?
From: "Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <michael.blanchard () emc com>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:37:59 +0000
I don't' want them to be able to remove ANYTHING from a device *I paid for*... nothing, nada, zip, ziltch.... I don't care if they say "It's for your protection!" Who's to say that they decide they will decide to "protect you" from a particular title and don't' want you to read Tom Sawyer because of some racial slurs in the book, or Moby Dick because it portrays vengeance and obsession.... They can just as easily remove those books, or any book, that "they" deem is inappropriate... or perhaps they'll not allow you to read "Mein Kamph" (sp?) simply because it was written by Hitler? If I want to read a book that describes how to torture kittens and turn them into walking zombies, I have the right to do so without some company saying "It's for my protection".... If I buy the device, I have the right to use it in ANY manner I see fit... period.... With that said, it's not something most think about and just go into blindly... For me, It is a tough choice to make though... If you *really* want to use that new gadget, you have to think about the rights that you give up in order TO use that new gadget... It was like the choice I had to make 14 years ago to work at my present employer... I'm against drug testing of any kind, but I submitted to a pee test to work here. I made the conscience choice to give up that bit of my beliefs, to take a position I really wanted.... I don't' think I'll submit to another drug test ever again though... not because I take illegal drugs, I don't at all, it's just the principle of it.... Life is full of choices, it's a shame that most folks (mostly outside this list mind you) have no idea what they're giving up if they make some of these choices.... Mike B Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -----Original Message----- From: Gary Buhrmaster [mailto:gary.buhrmaster () gmail com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:06 AM To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) Subject: Re: [funsec] Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) <michael.blanchard () emc com> wrote:
Yah, those TOS's have to change.... I had no idea Apple's TOS was so bad... Amazon can wipe your kindle without notice, including wiping all your e-books with zero compensation or return...
And it also allows Apple/Amazon/Google/Microsoft to remove malware remotely. For the average Joes (few of which are as knowledgeable as this crowd about their devices) a goodness or a badness? If the end justifies the means, this is possibly goodness. If it is the principal or nothing, then it is clearly badness. Tough choices. I am not sure I have fully internalized where the line needs to be. Gary _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Jeffrey Walton (Dec 02)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Richard Golodner (Dec 02)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Rich Kulawiec (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Paul Ferguson (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Drsolly (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Paul Ferguson (Dec 03)
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- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Nick FitzGerald (Dec 03)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Richard Golodner (Dec 02)
- Re: Will the digital cloud lead to a deluge of privacy class actions? Rich Kulawiec (Dec 03)