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Re: Apple's worst security breach: 114, 000 iPad owners exposed


From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:02:14 -0400

Sometimes it's very interesting to note that an address
given only to A turns up in B's hands...or B's,
C's, D's, E's, etc. hands in some instances.
...
For instance, United Airlines has been observed leaking
addresses to Brazilian spammers.
HP is notoriously bad about selling and sharing. Proof by example:
call support, and verify the email you supply will *only* be used for
support reasons (the call center folks will state it without asking).
Then wait about two weeks. Question: since I called and authorized one
business unit (support), and support stated the data was not
authorized for use in other departments, does that mean an internal
breach occurred because a second business unit (marketing) obtained
and abused the data?

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:19:16AM +1200, Nick FitzGerald wrote:
Most security professionals I've either asked directly about this or
with whom it's come up some way or other in conversation (admittedly
not a large proportion of all such folk I know), _do_ exactly that.
And at least some "more normal" folk I know (i.e. not security
professionals) do this too.  There are a number of reasons, but
commonly having a single "well protected" (by the privacy policies of
those companies they trust to share the address with) address is the
reason (the other one is tracking who sell, etc addresses and these
folk use a separate address for each company/entity that they share
contact details with).

I've done this for a very long time.  Sometimes the individually-supplied
addresses are rather obviously mine; sometimes they're not.  And I keep
very careful records of which addresses were given to whom.  I've also
trained some other people to do the same.  Sometimes it's very interesting
to note that an address given only to A turns up in B's hands...or B's,
C's, D's, E's, etc. hands in some instances.  There have been any number
of fascinating little case studies demonstrating that data is either
being sold or stolen or otherwise leaked from numerous operations (some
of which predictably claim that this is impossible and that those reporting
same must be mistaken, incompetent, senile or lying).  For instance,
United Airlines has been observed leaking addresses to Brazilian spammers.

---Rsk

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