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Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups)
From: chris () blask org
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
--- On Sat, 10/17/09, G. D. Fuego <gdfuego () gmail com> wrote:
DKIM is optional and not widely implemented.
.snip.
Of course none of this matters unless we could coordinate a shift off of smtp, which would likely be about as fast as the IPv6 migration unless there was a simple migration path.
This is the most important piece (more important than technical elegance): the willingness/ability to adopt the solution. IPv6 adoption is glacial/dead because nobody gives a squirrel's heinie about it, the same will be true for every mail solution that doesn't give people an intrinsic jolt of GS (Gottahaveit Syndrome). IMHO, a sender-authentication system that runs over SMTP and allows at least *some* mail to be highly-verifiable as known-good - and that was easy to adopt at the user level - could spread like wild fire and drive adoption and refinement thereby reducing the value of spam to near-zero. (fwiw I think this would require some amount of strong auth to work at all) An outright replacement system for SMTP as a whole strikes me as extremely unlikely. The amount of inertia to push against dictates that the alternative would have to be outrageously beneficial and that benefit would have to be overwhelmingly demonstrable or it would never be able to build the necessary momentum. -chris _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups), (continued)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) G. D. Fuego (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 17)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) G. D. Fuego (Oct 17)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 17)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) G. D. Fuego (Oct 17)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) chris (Oct 17)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Dan White (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Paul Ferguson (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) chris (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (wasComcastpop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) chris (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) rick wesson (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 19)