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Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my!
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:58:48 -0800
Paul, this isn't about you, or Dan, or realistically about me (although, since ThreatSTOP just signed up a large county government in MI with more revenue than it costs for me to take the dang test, I'm going to take the test to check the box), it's about the future of our craft. Sure, you're going to get grandfathered, the same way you wouldn't have to go through the JFK SW school if you went back in; or they'd make me rerun pathfinder, RIP, or any of the other "superseded" schools; or require that either of us go through any form of "CND" orientation. Our sad sack old butts would still have to pass PT, but that's making the standard, not proving we know what we're doing. Doesn't mean that the world isn't a changing for the new guys, and not for the better (and that the shortage of "qualified" people won't get worse). All I'm sayin is: ya wanna play, they gonna make ya pay. I donna like it, I don't think it's productive, but the regulators have taken over, the government is the only source of new cash, and tilting at windmills doesn't pay the bills. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM To: Tomas L. Byrnes Cc: Hubbard, Dan; Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu; funsec; RandallM Subject: Re: [funsec] threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:
The PI license requirement in MI is universal, applying to any
forensic
examination. AFAIK NC has the same legislation pending. So, it does apply to private industry, as it will to any federal prime or sub contractor (which, AFAIK, includes Trend).
I've been personally asked by Federal Law Enforcement on several occasions to assist on cyber crime issues -- I submit to you that will not change, regardless what of whatever farcical certification issues crop up.
Given that government contracting is the only growth industry out
there
right now, the "do business with the feds" requirement pretty much
makes
it a must have for anyone who really wants to work in the field. Once again, not in favor, just predicting. I, for one, am finally
going
to go waste billable hours getting certs (something I can ill afford
to
do).
I won't waste my time, since I probably help define any silly "certification" process just by being a pioneer in the field, so to speak. :-) - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFLPAYLq1pz9mNUZTMRAoAXAJ0ZudLGeS9WCspOYMovDEX6/CtocACfauqF X8zC+pQk+xcsvt1B4R0Y/EY= =VSEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! RandallM (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Hubbard, Dan (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Paul Ferguson (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Paul Ferguson (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Paul Ferguson (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Paul Ferguson (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 30)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Joel Esler (Dec 31)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! David Lodge (Dec 31)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! G. D. Fuego (Dec 31)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! The Security Community (Dec 31)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 31)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 31)
- Re: threats abound for 2010 what shall we do, oh my! The Security Community (Dec 31)