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Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups)
From: "Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:25:03 -0400
And what would trigger this law? SPAM? a port-scan? A high bandwidth
attack on another network? As a general matter nothing would trigger it. It goes into effect immediately. Are you asking what constitutes an infected user? We'd have to define that, but it's not the right question for this discussion unless you think it's impossible to define. Is it?
You don't mention SPAM, perhaps intentionally...
A customer sending out spam bot-like sounds like a trigger to me.
I would contend that, for the most part, infected PCs are not an ISP
problem, but the customer's problem. Think of it as an Internet public health problem, and the ISPs are in the best position to isolate the patients.
1) Educating users on proper use of anti-virus and anti-malware tools
- and being ADHD about installing OS updates. That just hasn't been getting the job done.
2) Replacing SMTP with something sane and secure. SMTP has got to be
IETF's biggest failure. Serious efforts at that many years ago (MARID) essentially failed.
3) Doing what we can to develop and increase our participation in a
public key infrastructure and IPSEC. Voluntarily? In what century will that happen? Larry Seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry_seltzer () ziffdavis com http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- dumb. Comcast pop-ups RandallM (Oct 10)
- Re: dumb. Comcast pop-ups Jon Kibler (Oct 10)
- Re: dumb. Comcast pop-ups Alex Lanstein (Oct 10)
- Re: dumb. Comcast pop-ups Rich Kulawiec (Oct 11)
- Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 11)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 12)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 16)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) Dan White (Oct 16)
- Re: dumb. Comcast pop-ups Alex Lanstein (Oct 10)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcast pop-ups) G. D. Fuego (Oct 16)
- Re: dumb. Comcast pop-ups Jon Kibler (Oct 10)