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Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers
From: David M Chess <chess () us ibm com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:06:46 -0400
According to court documents, Charles W. Papenfus, 43, allegedly told a sales representative during a May 18 telephone call that he would burn down the building and kill the employees and their families. He was indicted for making a terrorist threat, a Class D felony; and he could be sentenced to up to four years in prison if convicted.
Maybe I'm overlooking something key, but I'm finding the reactions on the thread here sort of puzzling. I mean, if threatening to burn down a building and kill the occupants and their families isn't a terrorist threat, I don't know what is. Presumably he didn't say it in order to make the person at the other end of the line feel *more* secure in life and property, and to calm their fears... Now maybe he didn't mean it, maybe he was just upset and speaking without any actual intent, and if so great he can use that in his defense at trial, and maybe he'll be acquitted as a result. But really, if I yell into a phone that I'm going to burn down a building and kill a company's employees and their families, I would hope I *would* get to spend a little time in a quiet place, thinking about whether that was really a wise thing to say... Not the kind of thing this left-libertarian usually finds himself writing to mailing lists, DC
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Hall, Rand (Jul 24)
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- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Paul M Moriarty (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Rich Kulawiec (Aug 03)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Gadi Evron (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers Tomas L. Byrnes (Jul 23)
- Re: Rage against spammers and telemarketers David M Chess (Jul 23)