Re: stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

["William Lefkovics" <william () emailonastick com>]

That defines one of the many potential situations.  Is Panama "beyond the
sea"?

I am certainly no expert; I was referencing the article.


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:larry () larryseltzer com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:41 AM
To: William Lefkovics; funsec
Subject: RE: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

> > There is no precedent as 'natural born citizen' has not been
thoroughly
defined.  It may be so, but it isn't 'obvious'.

Really, it hasn't? I didn't know you were an expert on the matter. How's
this for a definition? The Congress in 1790, a Congress on which a number of
Framers sat, provided in the Naturalization Act that "...the children of
citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, . . .shall
be considered as natural born citizens . . . ." (Act of March 26, 1790, 1
Stat. 103, 104)

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry.seltzer () ziffdavisenterprise com


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of William Lefkovics
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:05 PM
To: 'funsec'
Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

So really this is a non-issue and there shouldn't even be a 'probe', right?

> > Obviously it fits the requirements

There is no precedent as 'natural born citizen' has not been thoroughly
defined.  It may be so, but it isn't 'obvious'.


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Seltzer [mailto:larry () larryseltzer com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:50 AM
To: William Lefkovics; funsec
Subject: RE: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

What the Constitution says on the matter is this: "No Person except a
natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the
Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have
attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been Fourteen Years a Resident
within the United States. "

Having been born on a US military base, McCain was, by right of birth, a US
citizen. Obviously it fits the requirements, which are a stupid rule in any
event.

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry.seltzer () ziffdavisenterprise com


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of William Lefkovics
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:24 PM
To: 'funsec'
Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

I am not American and do not give hair nor hiney who wins the election and
does not become president; however, this looks like someone trying to force
an inappropriate technicality.  I expected something about Obama, but I
think the US military zones should not be exempt from the requirement for
becoming president.  How silly to even investigate it.  It sounds so....
Canadian.


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On
Behalf Of Richard M. Smith
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:01 AM
To: 'funsec'
Subject: Re: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

Even worse, the "Mall of America" was built and is owned by Canadians!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_of_America#History

Come November we may also have a foreign-born president:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections
/art
icle3460276.ece 

Richard 



-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On
Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:04 PM
To: funsec
Subject: [funsec] stop blaming "America"...its owned by foreigners

First it was "Chrysler". Now its The "Chrysler Building".
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aACZuFPo8cf8

And soon it will be "Anheuser-Bush" just to name a few.
http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSN0827753420080708?feedTy
pe=R
SS&feedName=businessNews

Our money goes out and right back in to buy us out.
http://www.economyincrisis.org/acquisitions/index#sold

Our workers lose jobs left and right
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/07/news/economy/jobs_february/

Our gas prices rise along with our food. Ethanol what happen to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGACRXbbBXE



I am trying to stay happy and thankful


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