Re: A Sad Day For America: Senate Approves Telco Immunity

["Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com>]

I'm not a lawyer either, but I studied constitutional law in school (my
degree is in public policy) and I've written on this. There have been
plenty of amnesties granted. I just looked it up and from very early in
the republic this clause was determined not to apply to civil liability
(Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. (3 Dall.) 386)

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry.seltzer () ziffdavisenterprise com

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:AlexE () sunbelt-software com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:54 PM
To: Larry Seltzer; Jacob Appelbaum; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [funsec] A Sad Day For America: Senate Approves Telco
Immunity

IANAL, etc., etc., but I believe a form of ex post facto is amnesty.
I'm not sure Jacob was wrong here.  

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:25 PM
To: Jacob Appelbaum; funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] A Sad Day For America: Senate Approves Telco
Immunity

> > How is this not a text book example of an ex post factor Law?

Actually, it's the exact opposite of an ex-post facto law, which makes
an act illegal after the fact. This law makes something legal, or at
least removes civil liability, after the fact.

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry.seltzer () ziffdavisenterprise com


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