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Re: [privacy] eh? [was: profanity]


From: "Joel R. Helgeson" <joel () helgeson com>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:50:53 -0600

Infringing on our rights? Hardly... I have the right to participate in a
decent list.

About the budget:
What drives me nuts is that if Department X has a 2007 budget of $10
million, and requests an increase of $20 million for fiscal 2008 for a total
budget of $30 mil, then congress approves $15 Million increase for a total
budget of $25 mil, they scream stating that their budget was cut 25%... uh
hello? It was increased by $15m when they requested $20m, that is 5m less
than requested, but should not be EXPECTED. Quoth the article: "Department
of Energy Office of Science, which received $342 million less than expected"
awwwww... what is their existing budget, then what did they request?
Whatever was approved was an increase that was $342m less than they had
requested. So sad!

Then reactionary know-nothing idiots read these and start posting their
useful idiot phrases all over... it provides further evidence that half the
people you know are below average... and know I know which half they belong
to.

Thank you,

Joel Helgeson


-----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Evron [mailto:ge () linuxbox org] 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:01 PM
To: Larry Seltzer
Cc: privacy digest mailing list
Subject: [privacy] eh? [was: profanity]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Larry Seltzer wrote:
What the hell is all this doing on a privacy mailing list?  Take it
Full-Disclosure where chaos reigns

Thanks for peer moderating. I just saw it now and sent a "stern warning" 
in, but the more I see the subject line line the more pissed I am.

I mean, I am no Bush lover (doesn't mean I'm an hater, either) and I am 
not an American, but come on?

1. He is the president of your country (generic "your") show some 
backbone).
2. I am known to use profanity and colour up life, and I am known to voice 
opinions when they are not popular, but this "fuck Bush" subject line is 
just offensive, pointless, and shows what a fuck-up you (generic "you") 
are.
3. Profanity in the subject line is now disallowed, yes, I am infringing 
on your rights, this is basically me stating rules.

Dude, Brian, you are both no longer welcome on the privacy mailing list. I 
don't care who started it.

        Gadi.


Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larry.seltzer () ziffdavisenterprise com


-----Original Message-----
From: Dude VanWinkle [mailto:dudevanwinkle () gmail com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:23 PM
To: Brian Loe
Cc: privacy digest mailing list
Subject: Re: [privacy] Fuck Bush

On Dec 20, 2007 5:50 PM, Brian Loe <knobdy () gmail com> wrote:


On Dec 20, 2007 4:44 PM, Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
wrote:


Keyes isn't listed either - and he's probably my favorite, now
that he's joined.

I will have to check him out, as this is the first I have heard of
him..

-JP


You won't like him. Well, maybe you will. While he states as fact that

he's the most conservative Republican candidate in the race, which he
is, that makes him pretty libertarian. Think Ron Paul + religion -
conspiracy theories - POSSIBLE white trash ties - POSSIBLE antisemite.

BUT, if you can find video of the debate he was in - I believe in SC -

where he argued why the states should KEEP their confederate
flags...wow, inspiring.

Well, I instantly don't like anyone who believes that humans are
"special" and have a omnipotent and omniscient deity who cares about
what whether I shit or get off the pot (see douglas adams), but I will
still give it a try..

You gotta admit, from a science standpoint, the following would be a
good thing:

a.) Will work to "Restore scientific integrity by supporting the
independent work of government scientists, promoting innovation and
medical research, and by returning to evidence-based decision making."

b.) Ban "political appointees from altering or removing scientific
conclusions in government publications without any legitimate basis for
doing so."

c.) Prohibit "unwarranted suppression of public statements by government
scientists."

<removed>

e.) Restore "the science advisor's direct access to the President."

f.) Re-establish the Office of Technology Assessment.

g.) Strengthen "whistle blower protections for those who disclose
potential instances of political interference with science."

h.) Direct "department and agency heads to safeguard against political
pressure that threatens scientific integrity and to promote transparency
in decision making."

The person saying them may be a douchebag and a liar, but they are good
ideas..

-JP
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