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Re: How much security does $1 trillion buy?
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:51:51 -0500
On 8/1/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
How about this one?He had, at the least, plans for a nuke program - and the means to obtaining oneAh yes.. the infamous "yellow cake from Niger". I seem to remember that it turned out to be totally bogus - and that Valerie Plame was involved in the discovery that it was bogus. Would certainly explain why it was convenient to "out" her...
Actually, it was her husband that handed in a "report" on the Nigerian sources. He, of course, has no known experience or knowledge of such topics - but he was getting it from a CIA agent so maybe it came by way of injection? At any rate, I'm not referring to the political debacle at all - I'm referring to the nuclear plans the DoD inadvertently published on the Internet via their Iraq document publication program. Oh, and their proximity to countries with nuclear programs.
He had chemical weapons out the wazoo.Maybe 10 years before we invaded, he had a bunch that he used against some resistance in the northern provinces. But where were they when we actually got there?
We found, during the invasion, mobile chemical weapons labs. We have stockpiles, apparently, of his chemical weapons. And, we have graves of victims of chemical warfare. I know, they're not American victims but they should do - even for you.
Where are all the WMD that we *knew* had to be there somewhere, as Colin Powell told the United Nations?
Based on a source we had in Saddam's CABINET.
He gassed his own people.And we poured Agent Orange on our own troops too. Does that give other countries the right to invade us?
We did? When/where/what were the circumstances? Like to place a small wager on the answers being even remotely relevant?
He drained the marshlands, destroying one of the largest wetland systems in the world (where are the tree huggers on this?!).By that standard, our refusal to abide by the Kyoto protocols regarding emissions control puts *us* in a bad light too.
A "bad light"??!! Are you kidding me? Kyoto did NOTHING for ANYTHING in the environment and the major players that HAVE to be signees of such an agreement to make it worth the paper its printed on, besides the US, WERE NOT ON BOARD. We're talking about an ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM being WIPED OUT. NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE.
And you overlooked another "half-truth" - that we were invading Iraq because they were major backers of al Quaida.
I never heard that from this administration until after we had won the war. He did say they were backers of terrorism - and I explained how that was, in fact, a whole truth. Nice reply though - you cherry-picked my full truths and tried to sell the same old lies. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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