Re: The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)

[ge () linuxbox org]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:06:59PM -0500, ge () linuxbox org wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:54:18PM -0400, Larry Seltzer wrote:
> > I see lots of books supposely by Erwin Rommel on Amazon. Do the Books
> > advanced search and search on him as Author.
>
> I refuse to buy classics which are out of copyright unless I happen to
> see them.

Ahh, here we go:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Rommel/


> > Larry Seltzer
> > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> > http://security.eweek.com/
> > http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/
> > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> > larryseltzer () ziffdavis com 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ge () linuxbox org [mailto:ge () linuxbox org] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:51 PM
> > To: Larry Seltzer
> > Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 04:54:32PM -0400, Larry Seltzer wrote:
> > > Who's more posh, Clausewitz or Sun Tzu? I hear Rommel wrote a book
> > too.
> >
> > I haven't been able to locate it (yet).
> >
> > > Larry Seltzer
> > > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> > > http://security.eweek.com/
> > > http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/
> > > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
> > > larryseltzer () ziffdavis com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
> > > On Behalf Of ge () linuxbox org
> > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:03 PM
> > > To: funsec () linuxbox org
> > > Subject: [funsec] The attacks on Estonia by Russians (or Russia?)
> > >
> > > People have been wondering why I've been keeping quiet on this issue, 
> > > especially since I was right there helping out.
> > >
> > > A lot of people had information to share and emotions to get out of 
> > > the way. Also, it was really not my place reply on this - with all the
> >
> > > work done by the Estonians, my contributions were secondary. Mr. 
> > > Alexander Harrowell discussed this with me off mailing lists, and our 
> > > discussions are public on his blog. Information from Bill Woodcock on 
> > > NANOG was also sound.
> > >
> > > As to what actually happened over there, more information should 
> > > become available soon and I will send it here. I keep getting stuck 
> > > when trying to write the post-mortem and attack/defense analysis as I 
> > > keep hitting a stone wall I did not expect: strategy. Suggestions for 
> > > the future is also a part of that document, so I will speed it up with
> >
> > > a more down-to-Earth technical analysis (which is what I promised
> > CERT-EE).
> > > In the past I've been able to consider information warfare as a part 
> > > of a larger strategy, utilizing it as a weapon. I was able to think of
> >
> > > impact and tools, not to mention (mostly) disconnected attacks and 
> > > defenses.
> > >
> > > I keep seeing strategy for the use IN information warfare battles as I
> >
> > > write this document on what happened in Estonia, and I believe I need 
> > > more time to explore this against my previous take on the issue, as 
> > > well as take a look at some classics such as Clausewitz, as posh as it
> >
> > > may sound.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >   Gadi.
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> > gadi"
> > - HD Moore to Gadi Evron on IM, on Gadi's interview on npr, March 2007.
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> gadi"
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