Re: [privacy] ID cards 'will allow crime fingerprint checks'

[Blanchard_Michael () emc com]

 Exactly, heck you could have simply been in the mall/subway/soda shop/store/stairway/etc before the murder occurred 
and have touched the wall near the scene.  
  
  My 'prints are already on file, so it's a moot point for me to argue about giving them again for my passport.  But my 
DNA isn't, and unless I've committed a crime that requires it, it wont be given.


Michael P. Blanchard 
Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Office of Information Security & Risk Management 
EMC ² Corporation 
4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard M. Smith [mailto:rms () computerbytesman com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:21 AM
To: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [privacy] ID cards 'will allow crime fingerprint checks'

Fingerprints can also be very unreliable.  Just because someone's
fingerprints are at a crime scene, it dones't mean that the person had
anything to do with the crime.

Also don't be too surprised that you'll have to be fingerprinted the next
time you renew your passport:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_passport

Computer technology makes it real easy to collect fingerprints for ID
purposes.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com [mailto:Blanchard_Michael () emc com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:13 AM
To: rms () computerbytesman com; privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [privacy] ID cards 'will allow crime fingerprint checks'

 I have mixed feelings about this.  I don't like it, but it's hard to argue
the good that it will bring to catch even one or two murderers.  But, I
wouldn't want my DNA and fingerprints in a national database that isn't
voluntary.  Sure sounds like it would violate the 4th amendment of unlawful
search & seizure (well, the equivalent in UK law, if there is one).

  Big Brother's gaze has already started in the UK.... It won't be much
longer before he adds the US into his sights... Heck UK and US are only one
letter different!

Mike B

Michael P. Blanchard
Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of
Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard M. Smith [mailto:rms () computerbytesman com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:52 AM
To: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Subject: [privacy] ID cards 'will allow crime fingerprint checks'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/20/nidcards20.x
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ID cards 'will allow crime fingerprint checks' 
By George Jones, Political Editor
Last Updated: 2:13am GMT 20/02/2007

People who get identity cards will have their fingerprints checked against
those found at the scene of nearly a million unsolved crimes, Tony Blair
said last night.

Responding to a petition on the No 10 Downing Street website calling for the
proposed introduction of ID cards to be scrapped, Mr Blair said the
biometric recognition details, such as fingerprints, would be entered on a
new National Identity Register.

In an email to the 28,000 people who signed the online petition, Mr Blair
said the register would help police bring those guilty of serious crimes to
justice.

"They will be able, for example, to compare the fingerprints found at the
scene of some 900,000 unsolved crimes against the information held on the
register."

The Government is already building up a national DNA register by authorising
the police to take saliva swabs from anyone who is arrested - even if they
are not charged - as well as those convicted of serious criminal offences.

Mr Blair's email appears to contradict an assurance given by Tony McNulty, a
Home Office Minister, when the legislation was going through the Commons in
2005. Mr McNulty said there were safeguards against state agencies "for want
of a better phrase, going fishing in the database".

The Conservatives are committed to scrapping the ID card scheme, which they
claim will cost at least £5 billion.

        

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