Re: Shocker: Bush Defends Spying After NSA Database Report

["Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>]

On 5/11/06, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> It's called artistic license.  For those who remember the old Cheech&Chong
> movies, there's a scene where one character says he doesn't do shrooms
> anymore, because it just makes him see snakes.  The backstory is that some
> of the Indian tribes that use peyote in religious ceremonies believe that
> one of the signs of a "true" revelation while under its influence is the
> appearance of a lizard...

A vision containing any animal is considered a good one - what is the
reference for the idea that they hold lizards in such high regard?

> >   I'm not sure about other Christian denominations, I do know they don't all
> > believe in the original sin however.
>
> Oh?  The concept of "original sin" is pretty integral to Christianity - if
> you're not tainted by "original sin", you have no need to be "saved". What
> denominations *don't* believe that?

The only thing integral to all CHRISTians is the beliefe in JESUS
*AND* his death for our sins. The reason some sects do NOT believe WE
are born with "original sin" is because they believe Jesus died for
that sin as well.

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