Re: Re: summary of the "sharing samples" thread from my view-point

[Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>]

Nick FitzGerald wrote:
> Gadi Evron wrote:
>
> <<big snip>>
>
> > My arguments repeat themselves: malware is everywhere - fact.  ...
>
>
> Yes...
>
>
> > ...  Good Guys
> > have a hard time - fact. Etc.
>
> <<big snip>>
>
> In this debate we keep hearing this claim, but I just don't believe it.
>
> Who the f*ck are all these thousands upon thousands of "Good Guys" who 
> need malware samples and access to expert analysis of the same _for 
> their own and the Internet's betterment_?
>
> Who the f*ck are they?
>
> Where did they suddenly come from?
>
> What do they do for a crust?
>
> Why the f*ck are they not knocking down the doors of the professional 
> analysis labs (or presumably at ClamAV should they strongly prefer OSS) 
> that certainly could use a bunch of them?
>
>
> Seriously, I want (in fact, need) to know the answer to this.

They are the f*cking:
1. Security researchers (yes, researchers Pierre), from vulnerability to 
malware, with hundreds of security companies world-wide.
2. Consultants.
3. Organizations trying to protect themselves from a certain new threat 
or damage-control one.

All those that need to give answers to someone, or keep themselves 
up-to-date, and don't work for an AV company or willing to pay someone 
like you or me to do it for them. Those who get paid like you or me to 
do it for someone.

Where the f*ck did they come from?
Well, where the fuck did all the thousands of new names in the field 
come from in the last few years?
Colleges, kids looking for work, ex-kiddies looking for work... and with 
the market demanding new people and security guys making relatively good 
money... they keep coming.

I'd rather not debate this or any other issue relating to it anymore. If 
you'd like I'd be happy to hear your summary of the matter, with 
relevance to the "so called" new world I claim is here.

Happy new year from the Eiffel towel!

        Gadi.
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