Re: Warning is about APT

[rancor <therancor () gmail com>]

You know that was not for real, just someone making fun of one of the
characters on the list.

Don't waste your time
On Jun 25, 2012 9:09 PM, "c-APT-ure" <toms.security.stuff () gmail com> wrote:

> Hi mustntlive
>
> could you maybe try a better translation service so that it's easier to
> understand the meaning of your messages? (I assume this is automated
> translation from your native language)
>
> thanks however for this great site about APT. it's really great !! (i'm
> not just saying this because i live in .ch)
>
> finally someone talks "About APT" and "Who We Are"
>
> http://www.apt.ch/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=666&Itemid=41&lang=en
> (notice the "id = 666" there in the url !? coincidence?)
>
> "The APT seeks to achieve this vision through a preventive and cooperative
> approach. The APT works globally, regionally and nationally with a wide
> range of partners including State authorities, national institutions and
> civil society [a.k.a. Hackers]."
>
> "The APT is convinced that the prevention of [...] is best achieved
> through three integrated elements:
>
>    - Promoting *effective monitoring and transparency* [...]
>    - Contributing to effective international and national *[...]
>    frameworks* [...]
>    - Ensuring that *international and national actors* have the necessary
>    *determination and capacity* [...]"
>
> "The APT has been leading the international campaign [...] (OPCAT)."
>
> "The APT’s multi-disciplinary and multi-cultural team has expertise in
> training, providing legal advice, developing practical tools, facilitating
> exchanges and advocating for preventive measures and mechanisms."
>
> "The APT develops and disseminates practical tools to [...]"
>
> "*The APT works in cooperation with a relatively broad variety of
> partners, who share its objectives, such as state authorities, police
> services, [...]*"
>
> * they name the Regions in which the APT is active. [really? all
> continents?]
> * under "Publications & Tools" they publish "The Optional Protocol - A
> Manual for Prevention<http://www.apt.ch/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=45&Itemid=256&lang=en>
> "
>
> though the claim on the main page might not be true anymore:
>
> *'No one knows about us'
>
> *well, at least they are not legion and we don't need to expect them like
> some other group(s) (they are already here, or not?)
>
>
> it's all about the context you read it in :-)
>
> i didn't know there is more than one definition for the APT ("the proper
> noun").
>
> cheers,
> @c_APT_ure
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Григорий Братислава <musntlive () gmail com>wrote:
>
> > Hello full disclosure!! !! !!
> >
> > Is like to warn you about APT. APT is mean Association for is
> > Prevention of is Torture. http://www.apt.ch
> >
> > Is musntlive receive email from APT is say to stop using their name
> > for mean malware from China.
> >
> > Is musntlive's best interest to believe is this APT overflow is come
> > from Richard Bejtlich of Taosecurity and Mandiant.
> >
> > Please Richard, is stop say APT so much. If is you must say give space
> > between China and is APT. Everything is not China!! Thank you. Is say
> > hi to Amy
> >
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