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Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...


From: xD 0x41 <secn3t () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:09:12 +1000

Good q,
I think B and C would have some juristiction, depending on crime impact ofc.
yes indeed, if one of those countries is say USA and the hacker has used X
to rip off A for huge huge amounts of say crecitcard injections... then
forsure something is there, or, they would make it on the spot i am sure, if
it were usa :)
I wonder though, about australia, and uk and some other  smaller countries,
they may not... wich is, the greyish area still... but, i think it is crime
impact on this one, and country a or b, being a power,politically,press
wise, especially..
It is a good case to watch the Assange, as theyre basically doing just that
now with him, creating the laws needed to create the extraditions... or so i
believe.
Although his case is abit cloudy , the rape being connected with, wikilkeaks
for example..
But, that is where they make things up even, to create press,crime
impact/victim impact, is taramount.
regards,
xd


On 1 October 2011 23:03, Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure () gmail com>wrote:

Quick question regarding the extradition stuff. Say hacker X was caught in
country A, for cyber crimes in country A, but had also comitted crimes
against servers in countries B and C. Would B and C have any right to
extradite him/her or would they merely be tried for said crimes in country
A? (assuming country A brought them to trial in the end).

Anyone have a definitive answer?

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:50 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:16:11 +1000, xD 0x41 said:

As you also said, murder is a no brainer in any place...well, maybe not
iraq
or afghanistan just yet :P lol..

Iraq, for all its problems, is still a place with a somewhat functional
judicial system. The court system may be broken, but you in general *will*
at
least appear in a courtroom with a judge and be pronounced guilty before
you're
punished.

I was actually thinking more along the lines of  totally failed states
such as
Somalia, Sudan, or the contested parts of Afghanistan, where you can't be
tried
for murder because there isn't a court to try you *in*.


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