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Re: Search and Seizure of Email
From: Justin Klein Keane <justin () madirish net>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:33:01 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'll just leave this here: http://www.cybercrime.gov/ssmanual/03ssma.html Section D does list a search warrant, but also lists other mechanisms by which the government can compel a provider to turn over e-mail. The US government is restricted by the 4th amendment in this respect. Justin Klein Keane http://www.MadIrish.net The digital signature on this e-mail may be confirmed using the PGP key located at: http://www.madirish.net/gpgkey On 10/12/2011 11:54 AM, Laurelai wrote:
On 10/12/2011 10:33 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:Well said! On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Daniel Sichel <daniels () ponderosatel com <mailto:daniels () ponderosatel com>> wrote:In fact, law enforcement officials don?t even need a searchwarrant toaccess private emails.In point of fact, nobody does, although acquiring this access is clearly easier for law enforcement. One of the burdens that the freedom the Internet brings, is the freedom. Your email is out there, typically unencrypted, available to anyone who can snatch the packets off the wire, Any ISP employee with appropriate read rights on a mail server. Take responsibility for your own email. Encrypt it if you must, but for heaven sakes, own the fact that it is publicly visible. If we do not take responsibility for our own email and whine about others reading it, than there will HAVE to be regulations by government to protect us. That's what government does. That's what it is SUPPOSED to do. So before we invite Godzilla to protect our email, how about we just man up and take responsibility ourselves? But that's just the idea of a bunch of dead white guys like Edmund Burke, John Adams and James Madison, and what do they know? Dan Sichel _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/Well there is no push to make snail-mail encrypted and lets face it most peoples mailboxes don't have any sort of locking mechanisms and is available to anyone with two hands and the malicious intent to steal someones mail however the US Gov needs a warrant to intercept your physical mail, why does it being online somehow make it different? Especially considering the US Postal service keeps threatening to shut down, and this is due to the increased popularity of *email*. Why this should be troubling is that they consider email somehow different than physical mail when it comes to privacy rights for no really good reason, and considering that one of the grievances we had with England in the time of the revolutionary war was the government intercepting mail for arbitrary reasons. This should make every American citizen's hair stand on end. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Search and Seizure of Email Daniel Sichel (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Christian Sciberras (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Laurelai (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Christian Sciberras (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Justin Klein Keane (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Laurelai (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email 夜神 岩男 (Oct 12)
- Re: Search and Seizure of Email Christian Sciberras (Oct 12)