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Re: Client aproach


From: Miguel Lopes <theoverblue () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:38:52 +0000

Thanks for the advice, the money was a long shot i will stick with the anonymous e-mail, giving the information and 
tips to fix it.

A 2011/12/01, às 18:08, Chris L escreveu:

Depending on your country/local laws (no idea where you're from), how you discovered the vulnerabilities and if you 
actually tested them and gained unauthorized access in the process then there is the possibility you're on the wrong 
side of the law. If you haplessly stumbled across it and then left it be but just know its there, you're probably 
safe. If you found something that seemed odd, and actively tried to test it or to verify that it was an issue without 
prior permission, you're almost certainly in violation of some law. Even if it was very minor verification. As well a 
lot of whether or not the owner decides to get police involved and try to come after you is simply going to depend on 
their technological knowledge, how they perceive the information you tell them and simply whether or not they decide 
they like or not so its a real crap shoot.

I'd say your chances of getting money are slim/nil and that it would be a bad idea to even attempt. Even if its not 
your intention, and even if you make it explicitly clear that you won't use the info or disseminate the info even if 
he decides not to pay you to fix it, it could still be perceived as an extortion attempt. As others have said, the 
best bet is to send an anonymous email, give him all the details and hope he takes proper action to fix it. 

If you really feel the need to let them know who you are, (or you did this from a location where they're going to 
track it back to you if they check the logs once you alert them of the problem anyway), I'd still say the best thing 
to do is to simply give them all the information and some small advice about how it may be fixed for free. There 
simply isn't any good way though to get actual money out of this though without it seeming like a shakedown/extortion 
or the owner simply getting cops involved because they don't even want to bother spending any money on the issues and 
would rather just label you some "elite evil hacker" and pretend their is nothing they can do rather than spend the 
money. 

However, if you're hellbent on it, the only relatively safe way I see to get anything of value out of this would be 
to turn over all information and advice on fixing the problem and make it clear you just want to alert them to the 
problem. A lot of people aren't exactly technical and won't understand what you're saying so you can offer to fix it, 
I can't stress this enough, for FREE. Then if by the end of fixing it they appreciate your work and think you've done 
well you could always ask if you can use them as a reference, which might help get actual paying work down the road. 
This is best done at the END and only if you feel that you've developed some trust and they appreciate the help you 
gave them. 

All that said though, safest way, as said, is simply an anonymous e-mail and it is the best option. If you are going 
to stick your neck out there, at least realize you're not likely to see any real money from it and there is the risk 
you get it chopped off.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Peter Dawson <slash.pd () gmail com> wrote:

Send site owner/admin anon email and leave it at that.. as Thor mentioned give em the info for free!  
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