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Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires
From: T Biehn <tbiehn () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:00:47 -0400
More people should hijack machines and push updates to them if their users are unable or unwilling. First an Analogy: If someone's letting money launders use their bank account to launder money out of INACTION that's still illegal, the same SHOULD be true of people who leave their systems unpatched. These machines are negligently left open to be used in 'nefarious criminal activity.' Plan of Action: It's your civic duty to write worms, hijack botnets and patch machines with or without user consent. This is absolutely moral holding to the various tests (is it self defeating if -everyone- does it etc etc) Just don't get caught doing it. I'm disgusted by the imposition that you'd decry their actions for being illegal when they were clearly moral and represent a net benefit for society. Haven't you heard of this guy called Gandhi who didn't subscribe to the arbitrary superficial morality provided by the word of the law and only acted on what he knew to be moral? It's time to elevate yourself out of your own mind-slime and into 2009. We all still have a long way to go. -Travis On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Castigliola, Angelo <ACastigliola () unum com> wrote:
Very unorthodox and unethical. Angelo Castigliola III EISRM - Application Security Architecture Unum acastigliola () unum com Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own personal opinions and do not represent my employer's view in any way. ________________________________ From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of James Matthews Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:10 AM To: Ivan . Cc: full-disclosure Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] BBC cybercrime probe backfires I agree! Why can't another people hack into computers to show.... This is such BS and the BBC should be hit hard by what they did. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Ivan . <ivanhec () gmail com> wrote:The BBC hacked into 22,000 computers as part of an investigation into cybercrime but the move quickly backfired, with legal experts claiming the broadcaster broke the law and security gurus saying the experiment went too far. http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/security/bbc-cybercrime-probe-backfires/2009/03/13/1236447465056.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/-- http://www.astorandblack.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- BBC cybercrime probe backfires Ivan . (Mar 12)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires James Matthews (Mar 13)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Castigliola, Angelo (Mar 13)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires T Biehn (Mar 13)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Castigliola, Angelo (Mar 13)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Ron (Mar 14)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Larry Seltzer (Mar 14)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Ron (Mar 14)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Castigliola, Angelo (Mar 15)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Larry Seltzer (Mar 14)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Elazar Broad (Mar 13)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires T Biehn (Mar 13)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires Elazar Broad (Mar 14)
- Re: BBC cybercrime probe backfires James Matthews (Mar 13)