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Re: Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday


From: "Biz Marqee" <biz.marqee () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:34:10 +1100

Acting like the child that he is, n3td3v continues to ignore questions posed
to him. How can he be such an avid debater over the legality of things like
metasploit, 0day auctions and similarly themed bullshit threads when he
completely disregards drug laws? How do you intend to lobby people to listen
to you when you are not a law abiding citizen yourself? You have no
credibility in the eyes of the law, so don't psuedo threaten people trying
to appear like you have some government backing. You have proven beyond
doubt that you dont, because the government doesnt listen to drug taking
internet heroes, such as yourself.

So enough with the bullshit.. FUCK OFF AND DIE.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:02 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:

i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by
what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure
anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way,
i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned
about your health. cheers.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Ureleet <ureleet () gmail com> wrote:
first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets get
that out of the way right there.

second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go to
some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day
period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish.  then compare
and contrast that against how many exploits have come out in the 24
hours following the patch publish after people have had a chance to do
bindiffs (u know what that means right white-hat?) against the
patches.  then, take all that data, draw some charts and graphs, write
a whitepaper, and present it somewhere.

u know what thats called?  research.  real ppl do it.

u dont.  and that is why, u suck.  ta ta.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:34 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:
so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be
helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest hackers
could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't
logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what the
realistic possibility was for a 5 day turn around from the day of the
heads up until a patch is released. i just thought it was bad that we
were giving the bad guys a 5 day head start, but never mind n3td3v
isn't logical so i must be wrong. scraping the 5 day head start isn't
a good idea because n3td3v isn't logical? right, i threw away 10 years
of my life to not be logical...

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, waveroad waveroad <waveroad () gmail com>
wrote:

You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want to, it's
not
for that your point will be valuable.
And actually it is not, also this is about logic.

See you're wrong again.

Get the fuck out of here.








2008/11/6, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>:

i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no
experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is
correct.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee <biz.marqee () gmail com>
wrote:
Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because you
have
all
these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your ideas
only
make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality most
will
fail.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>
wrote:

blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the
negative responses i get.



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