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Re: defining 0day
From: Epic <epic () hack3r com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:46:33 -0400
At what point does it honestly matter? The term will be used however it is seen fit to use by the person using it. Trying to redefine it how you see fit or recast it into what you believe is just waisting time and effort. Why not do something useful? This debate takes the same turn of events as the debate over the term hacker. In the end it matters not what you think and what you want to believe. The media and money will determine our precious defination. You will then be forced to decide if you term your code 0day, based on that defination. Not if you determine the difination of 0day based on your code. On 9/25/07, Brian Loe <knobdy () gmail com> wrote:
On 9/25/07, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote:No longer good enough. We can get a press scare over a public vuln release, or a wake-up call. I think we can do better as an industry.Who, then, rewrites all of the reference material? And doesn't any new definition simply become definition number 2 in Webster? Is it really the definition that is lacking or is the use of the word at issue? Seems to me, from the beginning of this debate, that its the usage. Far easier to reform the "zero day process" (disclosure, etc.) than to redefine the term "zero day". The term is owned by the public, the process is owned by those who follow it, the industry. Couldn't a formal process be developed that does the defining/labeling of a particular disclosure? _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- defining 0day Gadi Evron (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Brian Loe (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Gadi Evron (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Brian Loe (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Epic (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Adrian Griffis (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Brian Loe (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Andrew Weaver (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day don bailey (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Charles Miller (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Gadi Evron (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day scott (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day Zow (Sep 27)
- Re: defining 0day David Gillett (Sep 25)
- Re: defining 0day evilrabbi (Sep 26)