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Re: Pro US government hackerganda


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:40:43 -0400

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:41:40 -0000, jf said:

You're suffering from a logical falicy, I worked in that arena (albeit it
a different agency) in incident response for quite some time, while I find
the number somewhat high, it's not unreasonable, if you broke into $lots
of workstations and servers on a regular basis and downloaded everything
that ended in extensions like .pdf, .eml, .doc, et cetera, it wouldn't
take that long to get up to very high numbers. This is exactly what has
occurred and makes your assertion that of ignorance and presumption.

Right.  The first point is that you'd have to break into *lots* of boxes to get
enough PDF's to get 20 terabytes.  That's asleep-at-the-wheel #1.

Then there's asleep-at-the-wheel #2 - moving 20 terabytes off the network
without the resulting traffic being noticed.  It isn't rocket science to
keep aggregate traffic logs and say "Wow, that workstation usually only sends
a megabyte or two per day to the Outside World, mostly in the form of Google
queries and GET requests for cnn.com pages.  Today they've send 2 gigabytes
out - I wonder what changed".

Maybe that network needs to contract upload detection out to the RIAA.....

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