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Re: Wiretapping
From: Kevin Wilcox <kevin () tux appstate edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:27 -0500
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Joel R. Helgeson wrote:
If your company is a criminal enterprise, then yes. If you fund or support terrorism, you stand a pretty good chance. If you are like the 99.999% of the companies out there that do their thing, trying to make an honest buck, you have nothing to fear.
Kelly - you should always ignore anyone that falls back to the "if you've nothing to hide then you've nothing to fear" argument. It's complete bollocks. Yes, you should be concerned with wiretapping. The one thing that we've seen throughout history is that once power is given, it is abused. Given the number of abuses of the powers granted by the Patriot Act over the last few years, I see no evidence to suggest that any American entity (company or private individual) should not be concerned with wiretapping. Non-US companies are always fair game so at least they have the comfort of knowing they are probably being listened in on. Domestic companies are supposedly "protected" but, again, the documented abuses of the Patriot Act suggest otherwise. There are two things to remember. What is considered legal and just today may be considered illegal and treasonous tomorrow and once we accept that it's ok to listen in on phone calls at the corporate level, how long until that extends to private life? There is a reason we have the "slippery slope" argument being made. Besides, would you want someone listening in on your scientists and engineers discussing trade secrets? kmw - -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHOF2hsKMTOtQ3fKERAtMdAKCRvZFstucEGwvSkJslTo0oOv628gCfb9zi 96Qv6mheEDNPqMWp/LGFBnk= =Hlfo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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