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RE: Tool Release - Tor Blocker
From: "php0t" <very () unprivate com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 01:07:06 +0200
The purpose of this module is not to increase the security of your
server, but to allow you to prosecute hackers after the
fact. If your server has a remotely exploitable vulnerability and you
block Tor nodes, you can still be hacked from any
other IP address on the Internet.
The only difference is that blocking Tor force the attackers to use a
non-anonymized IP address, which can (at least
theoretically) be traced back to them. I have doubts that this really
makes a difference in practice. No see this, and the first sentence is where I think you're wrong. Tor isn't such an age old thing, I guess the point all breaks down to how many 'haxors' - that are tor users as well - would not use or be able to use at least a couple of hops when communicating with the target. In my opinion, whoever used tor in this case and rooted the webserver in question probably knew the fact that he needed to go through some hops and hide his identity - and if there wasn't tor (or in practice, maybe before he ever used tor) he would have just set up non logging proxies on a few hosts, or use a public proxy that was in china - if there wasn't more money involved than (people help me out with this one)... $5000(?), Jason still couldn't catch the hacker, so blocking tor globally won't help the problem more than it hurts privacy towards legit tor users.
Blacklisting IP addresses is no substitute for actually fixing the
vulnerabilities on your servers. Right. php0t _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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