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Re: [HV-PAPER] Anti-Phishing Tips You ShouldNotFollow
From: "Anonymous Squirrel" <anonymous.squirrel () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:20:30 -0500
On 4/1/06, Mike Nice <niceman () att net> wrote:
1) Any different social engineering besides "login to your bank account". For example, "Chase will pay you $20 to fill out a short survey!" (of course, after filling out the survey you must provide your debit card number or account login information to get the $20). This should be tip #5, back to the old 'don't click on anything from your bank in an E-mail - for any reason'.
It't not that simple. With all of the outsourcing nowadays, the phisher only has to indicate that the survey is being "impartially" conducted by a third party. Then the phisher can even supply a non-bank link without obfuscation! Really, all we are dealing with here is tricking the human into going to the web site. Saying "dont click on anything" only guards against one social engineering tactic. The rest are left on the table.
3) Any attack that spoofs the SSL cert box (The Codefish web site had a good example...what ever happened to Codefish, anyway?...pharming, MITM, and type-alike can fit in here, too) Tip #4 works precisely because it defeats pharming, MITM and type-alike. The Cert box is nearly impossible to spoof because you would have to spoof the actual bank's certificate. Any error and your browser will pop up a warning dialog that the host name on the SSL cert doesn't match the name of the host. That's only assuming that some corrupt CA hasn't issued a second SSL cert for the real bank host name.
You must not have visited Codefish. The spoof wrote a https: web address in the address bar, and wrote the bottom of the browser to look just like an SSL connection, complete with a lock. When the lock was clicked, it popped up something that looked just like the cert box. Very well done indeed. I'm continually amazed by the belief that the cert box is sacrosanct. If the underlying box is compromised, all bets are off. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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