Re: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps!

[InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh () gmail com>]

Not in the least.  I just know a scam and a waste of time/money when I see one.

On 11/25/05, Exibar <exibar () thelair com> wrote:
> wow, SANS must have really hurt you emotionally to be this pissed at
> them....
>
>  Ex
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: InfoSecBOFH [mailto:infosecbofh () gmail com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:43 AM
> > To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
> > Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking Boot camps!
> >
> >
> > Bottom line is... and you can ignore the SANS instructor/SANS
> > zealot post...
> >
> > SANS = SHIT.
> >
> > Now that I am in a position with my employer to hire and fire
> > people... I will not even consider an applicant who touts his SANS
> > certification as something to be proud of or something to make him
> > more skilled than the next.
> >
> > And, now that I am in a senior position at my employer, I am doing
> > everything I can to stop my employer from paying the EXTORTION fees to
> > SANS in order to be a part of their what works program and any of
> > their training.
> >
> > You know what makes me smile everyday... the knowledge in knowing that
> > I am not the only senior infosec person at a major corporation who
> > feels this way about SANS.
> >
> > Fuck SANS.  FUCK EM ALL!
> >
> > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sans#without
> >
> > sans    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (snz, sä)
> > prep.
> > Without.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------
> > [Middle English, from Old French, blend of Latin sine, without, and
> > absenti, in the absence of, ablative of absentia, absence from absns,
> > absent- present participle of abesse, to be away. See absent.]
> >
> > On 11/23/05, senator.crabgrass () comcast net
> > <senator.crabgrass () comcast net> wrote:
> > > Maybe it is not what you know but who you know.  Best of luck
> > with that grail thing, finding it is veiled, holding it is easy,
> > keeping it polished is where the work is.
> > > --
> > > vote for me
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 11/23/05, senator.crabgrass () comcast net
> > > > <senator.crabgrass () comcast net> wrote:
> > > > > ... the cert game is nothing more than  a lucrative revenue
> > generator. For
> > > > either the test givers or the vender pusher or the land of test king.
> > > >
> > > > a few respectable names in their roster[1]; i wonder why they don't
> > > > name the instructor giving each presentation on their conference
> > > > schedule[2]...
> > > >
> > > > i have a theory: the more legitimately skilled you are, the less you
> > > > instruct and the more you are paid.  a nice way to convert reputation
> > > > into ca$h!
> > > >
> > > > [maybe i can get in on this racket once i attain the holy grail of
> > > > CPA, GCFW, CISSP, CISM, CISA, CCNA, CCSE, CCSA, GIAC, GCIA, GSNA,
> > > > GCFA, GCIH, GCUX, GSEC, QUE, WTFBBQ]
> > > >
> > > > 1. http://www.sans.org/instructors.php
> > > > 2. http://www.sans.org/index.php
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