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Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers
From: Ryan Sumida <rsumida () csulb edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:54:28 -0800
I am no Wi-Fi expert by any means but I will try to convey what they told me in layman terms. Their product uses passive sensors that basically just listen for any kind of WiFi traffic. Using the signal strength, attenuation, and some other attributes, their algorithm creates an RF fingerprint for the location of a device. So as an example, if you are standing at your desk the RF fingerprint would look like this. RF fingerprint for Device 1 Sensor1 ################# Sensor2 ###### Sensor3 ########## Sensor4 ############################ As you physically move the device around the RF fingerprint changes. That's basically what they did to setup the device in our office. Once the room is calibrated, you can define the actions for each virtual zone through their management software. Hope that helps some, Ryan "KF (Lists)" <kf_lists () digitalmunition com> wrote on 03/15/2005 04:35:27 PM:
hrmm... is that based on signal strength or something? -KF Ryan Sumida wrote:As a side note.. Newbury Networks has a product called WiFi Watchdog that can
allow/deny
access based on physical location. As an example, it can be
configured
where anyone outside the building walls can not connect to the network
but once they move inside the building they are allowed access. Sounds
like black magic but it works (a rep came down and showed us a demo yesterday) and can help manage who gets on an open WiFi network like Matthew's. Ryan Sumida Network Services, CSU Long Beach full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk wrote on 03/15/2005 01:27:43
PM:
> > Matthew Sabin wrote: > > > My company has made a conscious decision to leave our WiFi open
to
> visitors, while our internal machines connect via IPSec on the open
airwaves. > > A drive-by would show the open nature of our WiFi, but wouldn't > immediately tell you that we've secured our business fairly well. > > but what if someone uses your unsecured network to download
copyrighted
> material (just mp3s are enough :->) or to send porn? > > An unsecured WiFi may have serious legal consequences. > > And to come back on the original topic: These legal consequences
may be
> good arguments to convince customers that they need to get their
network
> secured. > > Ciao > Marcus > > -- > Hail Eris! Hail Discordia! > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://www.secunia.com/
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- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers, (continued)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Marcus Graf (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers KF (Lists) (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Konstantin V. Gavrilenko (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ron DuFresne (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Gregh (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ron DuFresne (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Marcus Graf (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Konstantin V. Gavrilenko (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ron DuFresne (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers bkfsec (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Michael Holstein (Mar 16)
- RE: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)