Re: list noise

[Steve Kudlak <stevex11 () sbcglobal net>]

dcdave () att net wrote:

> I will NOT respond to this; 
> I will NOT respond to this; 
> I will Not respond to this;
>
> dcdave
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> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: phased <phased () mail ru>
>  
>
> > I also care about noise, and responding to stupid mails makes it worse.
> > Every time people send stupid mails like the rm file thing, and people reply to 
> > the list, the author was successful in filling the list with crap for a day or 
> > so.
> >
> > If no one replies, then they dont get attention and the people who know their 
> > advisories(anyone with common sense) are blatantly crap will not be affected by 
> > their nuisance.
> >
> > You always get a load of emails to the list from people who want to tell 
> > everyone they know that an advisory for example was crap, yes we know
> > thank you, but we are not handing out gold stars today!!!
> > No need to tell us all every time!!!
> >
> > phased
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barrie Dempster <barrie () reboot-robot net>
> > To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:36:07 +0000
> > Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Multiple Backdoors found in eEye Products(IRISand 
> > SecureIIS)
> >
> >    
> >
> > > I'd have to agree with the eEye statement on this one. You sent out an
> > > advisory without disclosing the details, which offers no real benefit to
> > > anyone. Many people consider this responsible disclosure but that also
> > > requires you to notify the vendor (there were no @eeye.com's in your
> > > "to" list but there were a couple of press mailboxes).
> > >
> > > You didn't contact eEye, you didn't release details, you used an
> > > anonymous address and failed to mention or credit any of the other guys
> > > in your "testing team", This can only lead us to believe that the
> > > advisory is fake and only intended to generate bad press for eEye. I
> > > personally don't care about eEye's PR rating but I do care about the
> > > level of noise on these lists and I do care about backdoor-ed commercial
> > > products that are in common use. You may have an issue with eEye and see
> > > this as revenge. However, I doubt you also have an issue with the many
> > > admins who probably have spent their holiday season investigating these
> > > claims, when there are likely more pressing matters to address, such as
> > > a large stock of alcohol.
> > >
> > > Show us details, or be quiet. If you intended to embarrass eEye the plan
> > > backfired as any competent professional on this list (there are a few -
> > > I've heard stories about them) would see this as a shameful attempt and
> > > would be laughing at you, not eEye.
> > >
> > > Seasons greetings to eEye and all Full Disclosure subscribers - even you
> > > "Lance Gusto".
> > >
> > > With Regards..
> > > Barrie Dempster (zeedo) - Fortiter et Strenue
> > >
> > >  http://www.bsrf.org.uk
> > >
> > > [ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x96025FD0 ]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Neither Will I!
Neither Will I!
Neither Will I!
Let it Die!
Let it Die!
Let it Die!;)

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

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