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RE: [inbox] Re: Is this a phishing attempt?
From: Dagmar d'Surreal <evildagmar () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:23:37 -0500
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 00:55 -0400, Exibar wrote:
It's not just people giving them bank routing info. They have people sending them thousands of dollars in cash in hopes of getting millions for nothing. The 419'ers wind up either kidnapping or killing the person they scammed and assume their identity abroad. The 419'ers have even been known to go after family members as well. It's too risky to try and scam the scammers, perhaps we on this list could cover our tracks well enough to not be found by these criminals, but most people couldn't.
Scam the scammers? I'm not suggesting people try anything like that. For one, it would be attempting to defraud someone who's probably been spending a lot more time thinking up ways to defraud people. ...and moral issues notwithstanding, there's probably not that much money to be taken from people so desperate for money as to try to trick the old and mentally infirm out of their cash. I just want to be a _complete and utter waste of their time_. My thinking is that this is a 4 teh win scenario since for every one of them, there's hundreds of thousands if not millions of us. If those of us who happen to be interested in wasting the time of 419'ers even matches the number of people who fall for their stunts (which I'd like to think is a really small fraction) we'll have doubled the amount of work they have to do to get anything--reducing their profit margin by half. If lots and lots of us started acting like retarded citizens who can't properly copy down a routing number, we could pretty much bring them to a screeching halt. The serendipitous thing is that it's absolutely trivial to get tools to help you make up perfectly legitimate looking profiles to waste a spammer's time with. There's still tons of leftover parts from AOHell and utilities for rolling up phony (but kosher as far as a modulus check is concerned) credit card numbers that you can pull off the 'net in mere moments. What might take someone thirty seconds to generate will take a 419 spammer quite a bit more time (and with any luck, some fee money as well) to figure out is complete bullshit.
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