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Re: Re: Stupid idea


From: David Maynor <dmaynor () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:21:22 -0400

Sure they would. They could write a proof that will conclude, based on
all "scientific findings" 99% of intruders will come in through water
pipes then set forth an idea of a water pipe monitoring system to
prevent this. If you were to ask him about this he would just respond
that you don't understand physical security like he does because you
don't have a phd. He will say this while someone is stealing his
wallet. After the next break-in he will claim the fault was not in his
water pipe monitoring system but instead the intruder wasn't playing
by established "burglar rules" and that a new proof must be derived to
take this unpredictability into account. If you point out someone just
broke a window to get in and maybe investment in shatterproof glass or
motion detectors should be made he will scoff, once again pointing out
that you can't possibly understand physical security like he does.
After this statement he will then ask for a ride home because someone
stole his car.


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From: Joe Random <xploitable () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:50:41 +0100
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: Stupid idea
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:11:04 -0600, carolyn.meinel () techbroker com
<carolyn.meinel () techbroker com> wrote:
Just wanted to help you out in no-flame mode. The reason no one hires known
burglars to secure their homes is that the occupation of burglars is to
break into buildings and steal things.

If this still seems unclear to you, hire someone who is out on bail
awaiting trial on burglary charges to secure your home.

Yes,  I would ask him to secure my home. I wouldn't get a jumped up
academic to do it, thats for sure. They wouldn't know the first place
to start and certainly wouldn't have a natural burglar way of
thinking.

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