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WAS: Re: IE is just as safe as FireFox: Moved to Education
From: "RandallM" <randallm () fidmail com>
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:43:19 -0600
__________ -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of devis Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:10 AM Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [in] Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox Do MS really think the users are stupid ? Do understanding different IDs/ roles / accounts on a computer that much of a tough message to pass to the end user ? ________________ I watched this subject kind of just go on and on and on. But this statement caught my attention. A while back someone made a point of the security issue of loading computers which come pre-loaded from OEMs. It never fails that the Administrator accounts on HP/Compaq pre-loads are never seen, there just there. And the "user" is made administrator. The only time I have seen a user start out with "limited" access is after joining it to a network and then log on as a user of a domain and not of the computer. The question above is answered IMHO as yes. Any one who admins or is a PC support person would have to agree. Come'on, if you change their monitor they freak out that there folders are now gone! What I've always wondered was why not at the beginning of a load do they not give a little more explanation of the accounts or make the first account as admin and require password for loading initial load and then require a "user" at reboot. I feel there is not enough education in this area to the user. And it is the "user" and their computer that ends up as our Zombie machines. I have to admin that users are becoming more aware of viruses, adware, mailware and trojans a lot more then in the past. Heck, that stuff is even on the evening news now. I think that education should be elevated more then ever. I have begun just such where I work not only to protect our network but to make my job easier. I got tired of spending a quarter of my day unlocking a computer from mailware and spyware. For my remote users I began a weekly "Laptop Tips" and for office users I send out messages explaining the dangers of such. I have seen the difference in problems. They NOW report to me about pop-up message and ask me what they should do. Before they just hit the yes button or ignored them. To me the old statement of "teach this generation what you want the next generation to know" works. Wow...I like coffee!!! It gives me a buzz!! And makes me talk a lot!!! Randall M _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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