Re: IE is just as safe as FireFox

[William Warren <hescominsoon () emmanuelcomputerconsulting com>]

not to mention the hundreds or thousands of pairs of eyes both 
helpful and harmful that look at the mozilla project's codebase.

Todd Towles wrote:

> He can buy a product..or do a super fast rollout of SP2..but why should
> he? Microsoft should write better products...period. Everytime a Firefox
> exploit comes out..there is already a fix...is that magic? No..it is
> good coding... 
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com 
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of 
> > Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:09 AM
> > To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com; Colin.Scott () csplc com
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
> >
> > If you do have 14000 machines why don't you buy "Finjan's 
> > Vital Security For Web"?
> > It will filter all malicious I.E exploits for all its 
> > surfers(its a proxy, quite fast...)
> >
> > Or just use SUS(system update server (microsoft)) just like 
> > any other administrator... to install sp2 or to just replace 
> > the c:\windows\system32\shdocvw.dll with the patched one or 
> > with sp2 one...
> >
> > Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> > Security Consultant
> > Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
> > Finjan Software LTD
> > E-mail: rivgi () Finjan com
> > ---------------------------------
> > Prevention is the best cure!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Colin.Scott () csplc com>
> > To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
> >
> >
> > Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to 
> > windows XP SP2,
> > hang on wheres that CD?
> >
> > So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel.
> >
> > Colin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                              
> >               
> >            "Rafel Ivgi, 
> > The-Insider" 
> > <theinsider@012.n                                          To 
> > et.il>                    <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> 
> > Sent by:                                                   cc 
> > full-disclosure-a 
> > dmin@lists.netsys                                     Subject 
> > .com                      Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as 
> > safe as FireFox 
> > 12/11/2004 06:44
> >
> >
> >
> > That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2.
> > Users  should use the latest updated system, meaning if there 
> > is an SP2,
> > they
> > should install it.
> >
> >
> > Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> > Security  Consultant
> > Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
> > Finjan Software  LTD
> > E-mail: rivgi () Finjan com
> > ---------------------------------
> > Prevention  is the best cure!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin Mkrtchian"  <dotsecure () gmail com>
> > To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
> > Cc: "Mailing List -  Full-Disclosure" 
> > <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>;
> > <ring-of-fire () yahoogroups com>
> > Sent: Friday,  November 12, 2004 3:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe  as FireFox
> >
> >
> >
> > > They should've at least released that statement after  they 
> >
> > fixed the
> >
> > > IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and  no fix for
> > > it, yet they claim its secure enough.
> > >
> > > If the  programmers are as smart as the company press 
> >
> > releasers, I can
> >
> > > see   why I.E. still sux.
> > >
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> > > On  Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles
> > > <toddtowles () brookshires com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Microsoft's  security and mangement product manager (Ben English)
> >
> > says...
> >
> > > > At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on  
> >
> > Thursday, Ben English,
> >
> > > > Microsoft's security and management product  manager, told 
> >
> > attendees
> > that
> >
> > > > IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews"  and is no less 
> >
> > secure than any
> >
> > > > other  browser.
> > > >
> > > > "Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more  about it, 
> >
> > but I don't
> >
> > > > think that Internet Explorer is any less  secure than any 
> >
> > other browser
> >
> > > > out there," English  said.
> >
> > http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/
> > 2100-1032_
> >
> > > > 3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433
> > > >
> > > > Can  anyone say IFRAME? Lol
> > > >
> > > > -Todd
> > > >
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