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Re: M$ Getting Better?
From: Nasir Ghaznavi <nasirghaznavi () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:53:56 +0500
Actually this time it could (dreaming) be better, remember they bought an AV company some months back. Nasir Ghaznavi On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:19:41 -0600, Michael Gale <michael.gale () bluesuperman com> wrote:
Open minded ??? It is kind of like the country song: "... if you break my heart shame on you, if you break my heart a second time shame on me.." Microsoft has been says for years that they are improving security ... but yet you still get screwed on monthly bases with worms and DOS attacks that bring your company IIS server and all the desktops. (Thank god we use Apache servers) Just because M$ says their making a AV doesn't mean a thing ... sure I have a open mind.. I believe they will make a AV .... but I still think it will be a piece of crap like everything else. Oh ... except M$ Office ... that is the only good thing I believe they have made. Michael On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:19:12 -0400 "joe" <mvp () joeware net> wrote:As an instructor, you forgot an important part... Instructions/ideas on what you think they should do to get better. What would it take for them to get that "A" in your class in terms of AV and security? Is there anything that makes sense from a business perspective(recall they are a business not a humanitarian fund dedicated to furthering knowledge and technology for the sake of fun)? Or is it simply a point that it is fun and well accepted to take pot shots? I would expect seeing the "M$" in your post the answer may be more obvious than I would prefer. I like thinking instructors teaching impressionable minds are open minded themselves. joe -- Anyone can complain and tear down, it takes a special teacher and person to build up and correct and teach. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Robert Guess Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:05 AM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: [Full-disclosure] M$ Getting Better? After reading the M$ AV thread I have to give my $2 (inflation)... Yes, Microsoft is improving... but I like to explain it as follows: "If a criminal goes from committing murder to robbing 7-11's does it mean that they are a good person? After all, they are getting better." Robert Guess Instructor, Information Systems Technology Tidewater Community College (757) 822-5022 () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html email _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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Current thread:
- M$ Getting Better? Robert Guess (Jun 18)
- RE: M$ Getting Better? joe (Jun 18)
- Re: M$ Getting Better? Michael Gale (Jun 20)
- Re: M$ Getting Better? Nasir Ghaznavi (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ Getting Better? Georgi Guninski (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ - so what should they do? Michael Schaefer (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ - so what should they do? William Warren (Jun 21)
- RE: M$ - so what should they do? joe (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ - so what should they do? Ondrej Krajicek (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ - so what should they do? Michael Schaefer (Jun 21)
- RE: M$ - so what should they do? Dave D. Cawley (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ - so what should they do? Ondrej Krajicek (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ - so what should they do? fd (Jun 21)
- RE: M$ - so what should they do? joe (Jun 21)
- Re: M$ Getting Better? Michael Gale (Jun 20)
- RE: M$ Getting Better? joe (Jun 18)