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Re: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-)
From: Mattias Ahnberg <mattias () ahnberg pp se>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:38:07 +0100
"SPL" == Schmehl, Paul L <pauls () utdallas edu> writes:
SPL> Given this logic then, isn't it the user's fault for leaving the SPL> door open on their PC? Do you blame the home builder if the SPL> owner leaves the door unlocked? ISTM that your culture teaches SPL> you that it's the users' responsibility, not the manufacturers'. It seems like every argument in this discussion is angled into this either being the fault of the user OR the developer. Isn't it more logical to assume that there are probably a lot of things that can be improved on BOTH ends? We can not assume that the majority of users will ever know all they should know about computers and security before using one, but at the same time we can't just take ALL the blame away from the user when bad stuff happens. There must be a middle ground somewhere. I do firmly believe that software developers should be a lot more security aware, and especially in "out of the box" products. It is way better for everyone if users has to "opt-out" of security features, than to have things open by default and to "opt-in" later. /ahnberg. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- RE: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Schmehl, Paul L (Jan 21)
- RE: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Ron DuFresne (Jan 21)
- Re: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Mattias Ahnberg (Jan 22)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Ian Latter (Jan 21)
- Re: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Jason (Jan 21)
- Re: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Ian Latter (Jan 21)
- RE: Yes, user education is a lost cause ;-) Remko Lodder (Jan 22)