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RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause
From: "Wes Noonan" <mailinglists () wjnconsulting com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:32:08 -0600
With these quick steps, a solution without any costs but network access, Windows can be much more secure.
Did you really just propose that a viable solution is to remove network access? Basically turn off everything that allows corporate uses to share information and collaborate and you have security panacea. Granted, you can't do a damned thing, but let's not forget that technology doesn't exist to facilitate companies in making a profit and sharing of information, it exists for some other geek reason. This is in addition to "well, if you don't run popular software you aren't as susceptible to threats". Yeah, back in 94 if you ran NT you weren't as susceptible to all the Novell threats... then NT became the big player and now you have folks saying "yeah, well run Linux and you won't be susceptible to all those Windows threats". And if Linux ever goes mainstream and if Linux ever surpasses Windows in market share, then 5-10 years down the road people will be saying "yeah, but if you run ziggledorf, then you won't be susceptible to all those Linux threats". This security through obscurity mantra is laughable. The top dogs always get the most exploits. Accept the reality. When everyone else starts using Firebird, Thunderbird or whatever other obscure program you want to mention as your own personal bestest solution, then it will get hacked and exploited beyond belief. History proves this. Disconnecting from the network or disabling all those services that provide network access is an unrealistic expectation. Next thing you know, you will be proposing only using carbon paper to share documents (though surely someone on this list will then point out the inherent security flaws in what to do with the used carbons). And people wonder why users don't understand, but certainly fear, a good chunk of computer security... Wes Noonan mailinglists () wjnconsulting com http://www.wjnconsulting.com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Justin Bajko (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause vb (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause vb (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause vb (Jan 16)
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- FW: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Clairmont, Jan (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause John . Airey (Jan 21)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 21)