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Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause
From: vb () dontpanic ulm ccc de
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:53:55 +0100
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:47:40PM -0500, Justin Bajko wrote:
I'll not get into the endless banter that will certainly ensue when I tell you that, in many circumstances, people don't have a choice in the products they use.
But also with Windows-Products there is a better choice: http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_us.html shows how to disable the services in Windows which offer the security holes. No services, no security holes, no "Personal Firewall" needed. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/ http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ are two software programs which do not have the conceptional security flaws of Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, but these are as easy as those to use. And there are versions of those in many languages for those of us - like me - who don't have English as their first language ;-) For solving the problem that not everybody is able to install programs on her/his Windows box, Firebird and Thunderbird need not to be installed at all - just copy a folder on the desktop and start the program in this folder. A fair user tells her/his system administrators what she/he is doing, so they can think about a company wide solution. With these quick steps, a solution without any costs but network access, Windows can be much more secure. Sorry: shame on Microsoft for that!
What I WILL say, however, is that to Microsoft's credit, Outlook 2003 is drastically improved over its predecessors. Outlook 2003 will no longer automatically download pictures that are in an HTML e-mail, nor will it automatically execute any embedded code or link itself to outside websites that are linked in an e-mail. They (MS) have a long way to go, but they're certainly climbing the mountain.
As long as Microsoft initiates "Personal-Firewall-Days", I doubt in that. HTH, VB. -- Volker Birk, Postfach 1540, 88334 Bad Waldsee, Germany Phone +49 (7524) 912142, Fax +49 (7524) 996807, dingens () bumens org http://fdik.org, Deutsches IRCNet fdik!~c_vbirk () wega rz uni-ulm de PGP-Key: http://www.x-pie.de/vb.asc _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Justin Bajko (Jan 15)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause vb (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause vb (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause vb (Jan 16)
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- FW: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Clairmont, Jan (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause John . Airey (Jan 21)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, he lp the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 21)