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Re: The 'good worm' from HP
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:31:21 -0400
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:34:32 BST, The Central Scroutinizer said:
Would it not be better to have a standard secure backdoor provided by a security package that could downloaded or installed by disk and works hand in hand with port scanning software, if this is really necassary. I am
No, it would not be a good idea.
supprised Microsoft have not released such a peice of software; maybe a third party have.
Many third parties have done so, going all the way back to BackOrifice. Think it through - there's 2 basic possibilities: 1) The machine is a Windows machine that's centrally administered and controlled via Active Directory or similar system, as in many corporate environments. In the AD world, it's well understood how to push fixes via Group Policy, and other central-management schemes already have their own schemes for doing it (even if it's a 'for i in `cat boxes.to.update`; do ssh $i...'). So in these environments, you don't need a backdoor. 2) The box isn't a member of an Active Directory or other similar distributed-management scheme. In this case, you don't want a back door, because you have no sane way to validate who's doing the push of software. So you can't securely use a backdoor.
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