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RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m
From: "Poof" <gui () goddessmoon org>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 01:20:49 -0700
Okay... So according to the law it's illegal to remove the program if later you decide to not agree to the EULA? (Which I'm sure it says that the terms can be changed at any time within it) That sure doesn't seem kosher to me... I feel that you should be able to remove/disable whatever on your computer. According to this logic... Using Ad-Aware is illegal because it removes spyware from your system without their non-existent uninstall interface! Oh, and you're also not allowed to know what the file/driver name of the program that they've installed is either? Nice!
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure- admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Florian Weimer Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 23:52 To: Nick Jacobsen Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Nick Jacobsen wrote:it seems to me the perfect chance for a countersuite... cause at least as far as I know, most state's definition of computer crime would include installing software on a machine withough the owners permission. or knowlege.. and since that is what SunnComm's protection is doing...According to the report, the software shows an EULA before the system is modified, so there is user consent. By the way, the subject line is misleading. SunnComm doesn't sue because of the "shift key" description (the company isn't *that* stupid), but because of the removal instructions for the Trojan Horse. These instructions could be indeed illegal to publish in the United States and other countries because they are specifically designed to circumvent an effective measure for restricting copies. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Jeremiah Cornelius (Oct 09)
- RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Richard M. Smith (Oct 09)
- RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Exibar (Oct 09)
- RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Jonathan A. Zdziarski (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Shawn McMahon (Oct 10)
- RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Exibar (Oct 09)
- RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Richard M. Smith (Oct 09)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Adam Dyga (Oct 09)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Jeremiah Cornelius (Oct 09)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Rob Lewis (Oct 10)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Nick Jacobsen (Oct 09)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Florian Weimer (Oct 10)
- RE: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Poof (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Cael Abal (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Dave Howe (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Michael Sierchio (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Florian Weimer (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Patrick Dolan (Oct 10)
- Re: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m Mary Landesman (Oct 10)