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Re: Coding securely, was Linux (in)security


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:11:00 -0500

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:07:18 EST, Bill Royds <full-disclosure () royds net>  said:

such as OpenSSH has been found to have security problems. If you look at
security advisories, find out how many come from Ada  code. C makes it hard
to write secure code.

I wasn't aware there was enough of a code base of actual Ada programs out in
the wild for there to be statistically valid results. I gave up on any
prospects of Ada when the DoD dropped the requirement that the compiler and
runtime support libraries pass the test suite for exception handling because
otherwise *no* compilers would validate.  Given this, and the truly huge and
byzantine nature of the *rest* of the language, I'm not convinced that Ada was
actually any good for writing *secure* code.

Think about how many programs have had bugs because programmers didn't
understand how *their particular* C++ compiler (in the current version, as
opposed to the version 6 months ago) handled constructors, and consider that
Ada was even worse.  True, it may have been safe against simple buffer
overflows, but a breeding ground for more subtle bugs caused by
misunderstanding the semantics of *all* the language features.

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