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Re: Re: USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES
From: "sockz loves you" <sockz () email com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:10:33 -0100
----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaw" <klaw () jogos net> Date: 11 Jun 2003 14:21:05 -0300 To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES
About the topic, that´s very funny that none of the "DOJ´s defensors" (it´s in quotes couse what i want to mean is the ppl that is defending the way USA Gov thinks) talked about what fbi and cia does, hacking into everybodys accounts. Secondly, how come you say that: "Kidnapping is illegal, but apprehending criminals and putting them in jail is not repellent." What about a President killing milions of inocent ppl claiming that´s becouse they have chemical weapon in theier country when 75% of the rest of world was claiming him not to do it ? Criminal depends on the point of view!!! How come the DOJ´s say:
i agree entirely. when hackers start to kill millions of people, maybe THEN can we turn around and say "okay, its illegal". the governments of our nations commit far worse crimes on a daily basis than we do as citizens. citizens who are concerned about their civil rights, or are naturally curious about the world around them. this is why hacking should be decriminalised. its a white collar crime that wouldn't even be an issue if it weren't for corporations whining about losing money. okay sure, there have been a few major digital protests in the past, but how are these different from real life demonstrations? is not resistance, freedom of information, and activism a fundamental right of being human? this is no more the DOJ's world than it is my world, so why should there be a different set of rules for Government and People?
I, personally, don´t think it has a solution, but, trying to justify what is "unjustfiable" is worthless.
exactly oh and darren, no i wasn't joking about encouraging the young hacker to develop his skills. its a legitimate option. enuff from me now ;\ -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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