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RE: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service


From: David Vincent <david.vincent () mightyoaks com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:37:18 -0700

this is messenger service spam.

the messenger service runs by default out of the box.  since it runs as a
service, it is running and accepting connections before anyone logs in.

you happenned to login with the admin login, i bet if you'd done the same
thing with a user account it would have been on that desktop too.  those
messenger spams are sent to MACHINES not USERS.

this is a FEATURE not a bug or a security vuln.

if you don't want these, there's TONS of info on how to stop it.  turning
off the messenger service/installing a firewall/not being stupid and setting
up an unprotected machine while connected to the internet are all good
options.


-d



-----Original Message-----
From: morning_wood [mailto:se_cur_ity () hotmail com]
Sent: July 16, 2003 1:12 PM
To: Martin; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Odd Behavior - Windows 
Messenger Service


I can confirm this behavior. This service is enabled on Windows 2000
and XP by default.
I noticed it on my sister's PC after she clicked away 3 
advertisement
pop-ups and growling at the PC. I think that the average user does
not know how to disable it.
(And btw: NO, the average MS-Windows user is NOT USING any 
firewalls.)



more to the point... THERE WAS NO LOGIN PERIOD
this was a fresh install.. waiting at the login prompt.. the 
pop up was
there before any user ( admin ) settings initialized or login 
took place.
once again.. this is out of  the box install following all prompts, no
sharing etc. ( only setting computer name and workgroup 
)reboot.. sit at
login prompt.. login.. pop up was waiting on an uninitialized 
desktop..
this is my question / issue...   NOT my personal security or lack of
knowlege about basic networking / security.
disabling the service is easy, im reporting on default out of the box
behavior, not how to get rid of it or protect myself.
please all.. re-read my scenario...

donnie


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