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RE: CERT, Full Disclosure, and Security By Obsc urity


From: Arjen De Landgraaf <arjen.de.landgraaf () cologic co nz>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:02:10 +1300

What about making it available through www.e-secure-db.us ?
right now it is a frozen copy, last update 30 October 2002.
However, that can be changed.

Arjen
New Zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: Steffen Dettmer [mailto:steffen () dett de]
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 10:15 a.m.
To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] CERT, Full Disclosure, and Security By
Obscurity


* Len Rose wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:22 -0500:
 [...] 
With the recent evidence that CERT informed it's paying members about the 
Sapphire SQL worm before the rest of the world should now indicate that 
they too are not a useful resource for timely and open security
information.
 [...] 
and the security information it hopes to provide 
may well become illegal (at least here in the US)

To summarize my opinion, I feel that security information must simply be
made available to as many people as possible as quickly as possible, and
let corporations, systems staff, and security professionals handle the
problems. "The public has a right to know.." 

So we need a non-US OpenCERT?

When the US laws make it illegal to know about incidents, I think
finally incidents will need to be reported for and from non-US
only, hum.

Aren't the current practices here looking like steps backward?
Still confused...

oki,

Steffen

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